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hehe, thanks Elena: I hope you'll enjoy the final work as well 
| quote: | Originally posted by UWM
Elitists?
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Aye, can you think of someone who knows about a genre more than die-hard fans? They've got info on their favourite genres that no other person usually knows.
I could write a paper on this, but I'm really in a hurry now.
| quote: | Originally posted by bedrocking
Thing with progressive house is that it has evolved over the years. The tune that kicked it all off back in the day many believe to be Leftfied - Not Forgotten, and other stuff on the Guerilla record label like William Orbit - Water From a Vine Leaf or React 2 Rhythm - Intoxication. That sounds nothing like the progressive sound u get now.
What is called progressive house these days really evolved from the trancier stuff that djs like Sasha & Digweed played 96-99, and was called trance or progressive trance (stuff like Bedrock - Set In Stone, LSG - Netherworld, Atlas - Compass Error etc. When the whole euro trance thing kicked off big time in 1999, they didnt want to be associated with it and played darker stuff. The stuff thats called progressive house/trance now.
You have an impossible task ahead of you, sorry to sound a bit bleak, but you really would have to have been around from about 1987 and kept an interest in all genres throughout that period to be able to produce something that you felt was accurate enough.
However I cannot recomend this website highly enough to get a bit of background in. http://www.di.fm/edmguide/edmguide.html Tjere are a few issues i have with the site, but basically its spot on.
The problem with the info on this site is that its also always going to be contempary, so its probably not a bad idea just to do a contempary guide of dance music and that way you wont get any problems. |
Don't worry, I know genres evolve and I knew part of this story (thanks for telling me the rest  ). It happens to every every genre. Trance nowadays doesn't sound anything like early trance, uk hard house now sounds different from those fanfares it evolved from, and so on. I'm not gonna ignore the history of the genres as this is the second most important part of any guide (the most important being the explanation of what things are)
| quote: | Originally posted by Radagast
I'm sure Lira knows about Ishkur's guide...and should be in contact with him while making his 'unbiased' guide if he's smart. |
It's not a matter of smartness (does this word exist?  ). We both like the history of EDM so it's natural that we talk about it with each other. Besides being a patient teacher (as he's already explained a lot of things to me), he's a very intelligent person with interesting points of view.
If you guys notice, my name is on the credits of that guide (with my old screen name, Maaz) which means that we've been talking about it for quite a long time already
| quote: | Originally posted by Ian^
ok a bit more hard house
Tony De Vit - Are you all ready / The Dawn
Hyperlogic - Only Me (Stimulant DJs Remix)
Artemesia - Bits & Pieces
Signum - What ya got 4 me
UK Hard Dance
Guyver - Man on the moon
Riot Bros - Ripped Out
Travel - Bulgarian (Paul Maddox Rmx)
Azure - Sunset
JX - Restless (Guyver Rmx)
Hard Trance
SHOKK - Isn't it all a little strange
Flutlicht - Icarus
Green Court - Silent Heart (Flutlicht rmx)
Dark Moon - Zeitreise
DuMonde - Never Look Back
Tankis & Savietto - Antea
Happy Hardcore - dont keel me
Force & Styles - Shining Down, Heart of Gold, Pretty Green Eyes
Breeze - Fly Away
Hixxy - Toytown
Bang! - Shooting Star, Break of dawn
DJ Seduction - Never gonna let you go
Vinylgroover - Bright Eyes
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Hey, I love Happy Hardcore By the way, isn't "UK Hard Dance" and umbrella genre that covers modern UK Hard House, UK Hard Trance and nrg (former nu-nrg)? Just checking, as you had them in two different parts
| quote: | Originally posted by torontotrance
Disco house:
Frankie Knuckles's stuff
Deep house:
Marshall Jefferson
Larry Heard
Speed Garage
Sneaker Pimps - Spin Spin Sugar (Armand Van Helden's Dark Garage Mix)
Nu Breaks
Ils, Evil 9, Adam Freeland |
w00t Cheers, tta
| quote: | Originally posted by Luke Terry
i wouldn't classify finished symphony as prog/trance breaks, that tune just lies in a genre of its own, its basically a classical piece with nigh on turn of the 21st century percussion, something like if i survive would be more fitting although it's still not a great example 
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I see... well, I got some better recomendations in this thread, I shall replace finished symphony by these new tunes
| quote: | Originally posted by infinity0908
It's Hybrid - Finished Symphony not Unfinished BTW
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Oops, I never seem to get this one right
| quote: | Originally posted by YaleTrance
I don't think that's the best choice for french house, being the most commercial song of the genre and all. Stick to the old quintessential Thomas Bangalter/Daft Punk stuff. Around the world is probably the best example. |
I had chosen "one more time" because of its popularity actually, but indeed adding the other tunes from Mr. Bangalter is a good idea.
I was thinking of adding commercial tunes to show that achievment of popularity is not really a factor that define genres.
| quote: | Originally posted by YaleTrance
old school Ed Rush and Optical stuff. |
Roger that
| quote: | Originally posted by YaleTrance
intelligent and jazzstep SHOULD be separated. even if not usually done. Marcus Intalex, High Contrast and LTJ Bukem are the prime examples.
are you doing atmospheric dnb for Goldie as well? because people will call that intelligent dnb too and it's not jazzy. |
My bad By the way, where is liquid funk then, if High Contrast and Marcus Intalex produce jazzstep?
(Yes, I'm adding atmospheric d'n'b)
| quote: | Originally posted by YaleTrance
Oh no! Satisfaction is definitely not electroclash. Electroclash elitists would die if they saw that. Electroclash is not really supposed to be that clubby, it's more emo/avant-garde/retro/post-punk oriented. ie. 2 many djs (definitely reference to their mix compilation AS HEARD ON RADIO SOULWAX for a review of the genre's evolution), Ladytron, Chicks on Speed, Fischerspooner, and Felix da Housecat being the most commercially oriented within the acceptable boundaries of electroclash.
Satisfaction is house, club music. Same with the electro-trance Ferry crap. Doesn't really fit with the electroclash ethos. |
I didn't know electroclash couldn't be clubby, that's why I thought I'd better check the info I got As for Ferry's latest production, I'm thinking (haven't decided yet) of having a "regressive trance" or "experimental trance" somewhere in the guide so I could add trance/club tunes with this retro/experimental feel.
| quote: | Originally posted by YaleTrance
for Latin house---it's all about Masters at Work (Little Louie Vega).
tribal can be pure (old Tenaglia), go more proggy (Filterheadz) or more clubby trancy house (Robbie Rivera). |
Yay hmm... however, I reckon "clubby trancy house" wouldn't be a good name for a genre because, if I started to divide genres that much, my work would be endless Can't I just have it under tribal trance (or house)? 
| quote: | Originally posted by TranceGiant
I'd nominate Shmuel Flash - Chilling Moments for Progressive House. Imho this is how proper prog sounds like.
Also I can't believe you didn't mention THE classic of the psy/goa genre: Hallucinogen - L.S.D.
Add Pleiadians - Maya and X-Dream - Coming Soon |
Don't worry, LSD is in the database, I just forgot to check it  I didn't know about the other tunes though, thanks
| quote: | Originally posted by Galapidate
Progressive House: Sasha & Junkie XL - Beauty Never Fades
Deep House: PQM - You Are Sleeping ?? |
Thanks
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As for the list of what I've got so far, I realised it's a bit too long, so I really need time to organise it: I shall post the list this weekend. If you can contribute with more tunes, please do so, as I can always add/replace more names
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