i think it is not only the djs fault..trance is missing something these days..i do not get the same feeling i got out of trance 2 or 3 years ago..it doesnt touch me in the same wayi used to feel like i am in another world when listenen to trance..now i just bop my head n move around but the rush i used to get out of it is gone..

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Originally posted by tranceaholic i think it is not only the djs fault..trance is missing something these days..i do not get the same feeling i got out of trance 2 or 3 years ago..it doesnt touch me in the same wayi used to feel like i am in another world when listenen to trance..now i just bop my head n move around but the rush i used to get out of it is gone..

Why do I keep hearing a lot better tracks every day made by amateurs than the drivel that gets released then?

It's obvious most labels just want to sign the most easily accessible drivel to get a quick buck... 18 months later they go bankrupt and blame the mp3s for it. Yet they don't seem to realise all the stuff they release get old after 2 months whereas true top tunes last for years.

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so true nik, armin knows that he can push anything and the lame ASOT whores will go buy anything, why do you see Mike and L-Vee there all the time. They have obviously lost the fucking plot and rather just push marginal CRAP to people. Making money is great but when you just get into pushing anything for a quick buck with no long term view on anything, you really have lost the plot. Mike, L-Vee and Armin rather push halfass crap to the masses rather than the old style quality over quantity.

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Originally posted by Nell i started to notice ages ago when all his remixes started sounding the same in 2002. such a shame.

I didn't mind
I had a fantastic time to rapture, janeiro and time is the healer
and seven cities to a lesser extent
after that it went to shit

and if we're talking about amateur tracks being better than the pro's, check this fellow out
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=174827

really fucking good track

Another topic to flame on one of the most valuable persons in the trancescene. What would the trancecommunity look like without the influence of Armin, PvD, Ferry or Tiesto?

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Why do I keep hearing a lot better tracks every day made by amateurs than the drivel that gets released then? It's obvious most labels just want to sign the most easily accessible drivel to get a quick buck... 18 months later they go bankrupt and blame the mp3s for it. Yet they don't seem to realise all the stuff they release get old after 2 months whereas true top tunes last for years.

yea u got a point there..i sometimes wonder why they keep stickin to some tracks time n time again while they have a huge variety to go through..

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Originally posted by Ultravibe! Another topic to flame on one of the most valuable persons in the trancescene. What would the trancecommunity look like without the influence of Armin, PvD, Ferry or Tiesto?

WASHED UP TRANCE PRODUCERS IMO

out with the old

in with the new flava



way i look at it

his recent sets are pretty good as the old ones.
no boring stuff at all imo

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Originally posted by sandstorm03 did armin manage to play 5 hours of fluffy trance, with some fluffy prog? Because thats what he did in nyc...And people fled out @ about 4:30. Like 2-3 hours into his set. Armin is good for about 2 hours, then gets boring.

I would say very little fluff. It was insane. He had the whole crowd going the whole time. When he stopped at 4:30am (he started a little after 11pm), the room was still packed and was yelling out that they wanted more...but I guess Armin wasn't up to it (believe he had a cold and was also pretty tired as he flew across the country from Atlanta to play).

And I don't recall him playing Love Comes Again the whole night.

Dave

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Armin was quality through about 2002, and made perhaps some of the best work in the scene around 2001. Then there was that embarassing remix of Seven Cities. Soon after, ASoT went down the tubes with fluff Dutch trance (and later, McProg). His record label of the same name only sealed the doom.

Unfortunate, really. Paul's roadbumps aren't anywhere as bad as the clean nosedive Armin decided to take.

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Originally posted by speedracer_mec WASHED UP TRANCE PRODUCERS IMO out with the old in with the new flava way i look at it

I agree!! They're OK, but past their prime.

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