nice reply mps242
its quite amusing how people can let themselves be so caught up in a frenzy of rhetoric and propoganda where they lose vision of the big picture. cleary those 'facts' are anything but, however even as they were showing a selective amount of facts is like only showing half the plot... outta context as occrider has said.

sufee_b, what are you actually trying to say? please try agian by opening up a real thread with out that dribble and come out with a logical arguement. you might be surprised with how many would agree with you, but when you post crap in this manner then of course everyone is going to gang up on you.

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Originally posted by mps242 Great, only WMD can't be shown to cause increased cancer rates. In fact, the most likely reason why Iraqis had increased cancer rates are from Saddam using his chem weapons in the Shiite areas of Iraq...

Hey mps242, I was initially against the use of DU until I did a lot of research into it over the course of many debates here, and you'd be surprised at the findings once you rule out whack job "experts" and stick to credible scientific sources:

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...um&pagenumber=2

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...epleted+uranium

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Originally posted by occrider Hey mps242, I was initially against the use of DU until I did a lot of research into it over the course of many debates here, and you'd be surprised at the findings once you rule out whack job "experts" and stick to credible scientific sources: http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...um&pagenumber=2 http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...epleted+uranium

I only checked out that first linkm, but it looks just like what the WHO and UN say about it as well...

Frankly, I am very against DU because although science is leaning towards "mostly harmless" I wouldn't want the shit dropped in my neighborhood. Irrational maybe, but radiation freaks me out o matter how "safe it is"... I hide my nuts in a lead coffeecup when I use the microwave practically..

I would be all for banning its use (the US is currently switching over to Tungsten rounds instead of DU), but I hate these scaremongering propaganda whores who will show you a picture of deformed baby and say that DU caused it. DU, IMHO, is creepy enough without fabricating evidence. Honesty, it seems, takes a back seat to politics and fear...

Seems like S.O.P. of the uberleft though....

blah...blah...blah......

Come up with something original, source it here, or don't even bother...

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Originally posted by mps242 40 Billion na d all the world's problems are solved.... right... We can't even rebuild Iraq for 40 billion.. Gee, awfully convenient to forget Iraq's #1 Chem/bio supplier, Germany. And Iraq's #1 nuclear supplier France, and Iraq's #1 delivery vehicle (for WMD) supplier, Russia... I guess the "Prevention of Genocide Act of 1988" that was unanimously passed when we found out about Halabja doesn't count... The first Gulf War? Wrong. Great, only WMD [oops EDIT: DU] can't be shown to cause increased cancer rates. In fact, the most likely reason why Iraqis had increased cancer rates are from Saddam using his chem weapons in the Shiite areas of Iraq... You mean besides the two prior wars of aggression? No kidding, we already removed Saddam... Yep, and they were right on the $... Yeah, it's criminal that UN oficials, as well as several European officials greased their palms with oil-for-food money. Every single death rests on their shoulders if these allegations are true. Wrong again. 1997/1998 Better question: How many of those resolutions are actual binding on Israel?

WOW! If I were immature I would write "Owned" in big huge letters, but I wont.

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Originally posted by sufee_b You might be right... they may have never been condmened for WMD, i'll tolerate that..theyve just been condemned for dozens of other things.

Condemned by who? The PLO? Hamas? The General Assembly?

Yay, I can make up facts too! 89% of Palestinian sympathizers are wanted criminals! Since Israel came into being, the average income of Palestinian households has risen 2000 percent! 73% of Iraqis say they want the US government to stay! 20% more say they'd like to officially become a US state! Since 2003, over 53,000 nuclear warheads have been found in Iraq! How do I know all this? PM me and I'll tell you! It's a credible source I promise!

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Originally posted by Yoepus your barking up the tree of an inconsistant analogy. Here's why: Israel has never (as in not once, never, nil, zero, nada) been condemned by the UN for WMD. Anyone who knows the often the UN condemns Israel should be awe struck by this. Second, Israel doesn't have a WMD program Third, Israel has never been sanctioned or regulations/restriction imposed because of its WMD policy. Fouth, Israel has never been aggressive to its neighbors and does not pose a threat to the region (so long as no one tries to destory it). If Israel was condemned the the UN for WMD, did start a war numerous times, and had been sanctioned afterwords to no effect, then your anaology would be compatiable. Afterall, the same points this anti-zoinist raised regarding Israel's WMD endevaours could just have easily been "facts" for Iran, Libya, Syria, Pakistan, or Sudan. Nope, the author just to discriminate soley against Israel in this cause (clearly antisemtic ). So to address your statement again "So there is no relevance of two countries in the same region who have secretly persued WMD programs and violated UN resolutions?" No! There are MUCH MORE than two countries in the region. So why pick and say there is relevance with only one?

Have you ever heard of VETO POWER that the US has taken advantage of???

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Originally posted by Cyrus King Have you ever heard of VETO POWER that the US has taken advantage of???

Shouldn't you be asking yourself why veto power exists, if not for this very purpose?

Besides, how many actual security council resolutions against Israel have actually been vetoed? And of those, how many relating to WMDs?

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Originally posted by Cyrus King Have you ever heard of VETO POWER that the US has taken advantage of???

Do you mean the same veto power that France and Russia have?


Yea, I think I've heard of it

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http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/UN/usvetoes.html

does this link help anyone?

Cyrus? Yoepus?

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Originally posted by igottaknow Everyone once believed (incorrectly) the world was flat. What's you're point? The IQ test doesn't call into question whether anyone "believed" that there were WMDs in Iraq. Sounds like you failed the test.

You wanted sources from MY post, genius.
...and you got em.
are you a girl? seriously.