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Cyrus King
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quote:
Originally posted by mps242
Yeah but here's the kicker...

Q: What were Jews living in Palestine called in the 1800's to early 1900's?

A: Palestinians

Q: What were the people now known as Palestinians called?

A: Arabs

The idea of a "Palestinian" people is a modern construct, it has no basis in historical ethnic divisions...


Are you actually going to tell me that the actual MINORITY european jewish population was the same as the indiginous arab population?
Give me a break... so many stupid excuses


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Massive84
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quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
You seem to be asking an entirely different question here..


it is an important question, and not many willing to give a decent answer for it. as in a fair answer.

Old Post Apr-24-2004 19:43  Netherlands
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DigiNut
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quote:
Originally posted by Massive84
it is an important question, and not many willing to give a decent answer for it. as in a fair answer.

It may be important, but it is also non sequitur in this case as well as a typical complex question fallacy (that is, a question which intrinsically presumes a set of hypotheses to be true before the question can be answered).

To be specific, the question:
quote:
would it still be okay and remove them from their land to make a nation out of the blue for people who are not even realy from there???

Is actually asking 4 questions:
1. Did the original settlers intentionally remove the original Arabs from their land?
2. If so, did they do it in order to make their own nation?
3. If so, was it solely for people who were not from the region?
4. Assuming 1-3 are true, would it be okay?

As you can see, it is hard to give a "fair" answer to such an unfair question, because many of us do not consider the first three questions to be true, or even the very first one. Perhaps, if they were true, I might answer "no" (but the question still distorts the reality and ignores the possibility of several mitigating factors, so I might even answer "yes"), but the problem is that they are not true, at least not true in any testable, provable, objective sense. And if parts 1-3 are a matter of opinion, then one could hardly be expected to give a realistic answer to part 4.


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Oh you're so smart Diginut. All this mental stimulation you excerpt onto this board makes me want to touch myself in ways I have yet to conceive. *humps rolled up Persian rug*


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