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Freak_Q_Librium
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Registered: Apr 2004
Location: Toronto Canada

quote:
Originally posted by Tranc3
Of course the first time it was great - you had never heard it before and it was a new world to you, besides which, it conjured thoughts and/or feelings that hadn't been conjured within you before with other music.


Well as stated elsewhere I am still on my honeymoon with this stuff and it's been almost a month, the high has not depreciated but only increases with each passing day. I am truly experiencing feelings/thoughts through electronic music that are totally new to me. This may be the honeymoon that lasts a lifetime

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Jimmy
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I totally agree, the asot sound sucks bigtime, the last good trance track i heared was miika kuisma - orion. And that track wasn't even played on asot.

Oh, mark norman is good btw, their techtrance is good, but they too have to watch out of producing the same sound.

I suggest to stop listening to trance and concentrate on other genres, cause quality in the trance is very low.

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Boomer187
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Registered: Aug 2001
Location: USA

I don't know where this idea came from that just popped in my head but here it is....


you guys are only looking at half of the equation. there are tow parts. The song, and your taste in music.

You are assuming that your taste in music stays the same, that what you called good music 5 years ago, is still the same today, e.g., I liked trance tunes, now they sux. well tastes I am beginning to think change over time with everyone. We can't just listen to the samething over and over again, we need change.

and this change isn't just confined to one genre or a few tunes....hhmm, hard to explain since I have not thought about this long, but basically this is the reason I think people make paradigm shifts in their tastes in music. People start off liking one type, cheese....then start to like trance, then move on to prog...and there are a million variants of that path. it varies by person.


SO if in fact we all change our taste in music, then surely those that make music have evolving tastes too. which complicates the equation.

In order for you to still like a certain type of music over time, your changing tastes must be related to the change in taste in the artists who make that type of music.



since this is not too well thought out I will end the torture here.


but to summarise, hating music you once liked is inevitable, your tastes will change, just move on and stop blaming the makers of music of a genre you used to like, split that blame on yourself.

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Radagast
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Registered: Aug 2003
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Unfortunately, it is the producers. Oh well.

Our taste doesn't change because of time, it changes because of producers making the same stuff over and over.


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Freak_Q_Librium
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Registered: Apr 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by Boomer187
I don't know where this idea came from that just popped in my head but here it is....


you guys are only looking at half of the equation. there are tow parts. The song, and your taste in music.

You are assuming that your taste in music stays the same, that what you called good music 5 years ago, is still the same today, e.g., I liked trance tunes, now they sux. well tastes I am beginning to think change over time with everyone. We can't just listen to the samething over and over again, we need change.

and this change isn't just confined to one genre or a few tunes....hhmm, hard to explain since I have not thought about this long, but basically this is the reason I think people make paradigm shifts in their tastes in music. People start off liking one type, cheese....then start to like trance, then move on to prog...and there are a million variants of that path. it varies by person.


SO if in fact we all change our taste in music, then surely those that make music have evolving tastes too. which complicates the equation.

In order for you to still like a certain type of music over time, your changing tastes must be related to the change in taste in the artists who make that type of music.



since this is not too well thought out I will end the torture here.


but to summarise, hating music you once liked is inevitable, your tastes will change, just move on and stop blaming the makers of music of a genre you used to like, split that blame on yourself.


^^^^What he said to the power of ten

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Mr. Pink
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Yeah boomer is right..

but ive also been getting annoyed with outplayed tracks... just more of the same shite over and over again....although, i liked them at one point, it seems to be the only thing im hearing from a ton of dj's...

regardless, i have faith in all my dj's..... i think some crazy shit is gonna go down soon....maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but soon!


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Syeker
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Registered: Oct 2003
Location: Santo Domingo

You guys sound like my mom (who says that all trance music sounds the same). There are great tunes right now just decide what you want to listen and forget about everything else, believe me MUSIC IN GENERAL now days kind of suck, i used to listen to Incubus before i began listening to trance and now they released a shity new single. If you listen to hip-hop you'll see it's all about having sex and getting drunk.

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PETRAN
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Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Volos, Greece

guys, trance is not all about big breakdowns and pro-53 strings, trance is kind of changing now into that more "progressive" sound, which it gets more and more fantastic. Go to 3beat records or tune inn they have lots of amazing new prog-trance tracks. for gods sake listen to releases from border community, producers like holden, schulz, steve porter, subsky , petter, yunus guvenen, new releases from intrinsic (which are FANTASTIC in my opinion), gwill morris, ben camp they are fantastic stuff out there. If epic trance is dying doent mean that ALL trance is dying. Someone said that the most music sucks these days, he is wrong . Pop music (and with pop i mean hip-hop and new metal as well!!!) definitely sucks, its plastic, but in the underground they are beautifull things to find, has anyone of you searched for new electronica stuff??? post-rock is a recent genre with losts of cool stuff( labradford, DNTEL, Godspeed who are now classic). Im sorry to say that but in my opinion lots of american people with the BAD musical education they receive only thing of hip-hop and new metal as cool which in reality are of extremely low quality in my opinion( ANY of it). So people get off your lazy asses and search!!!

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Krypton
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Registered: Nov 2003
Location: Texas

quote:
Originally posted by chesco
I must say i'm not a fan of trance any more.

some of the progressive stuff the likes of chable produce is good and i do buy it, but i was really shocked at how bad the stuff AVB was playing in his essential mix was.it was terrible.

the days of binary finary seem like a life time ago.

listen to techno it's much better


techno??


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ASOT100
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if trance is bothering u so much stop listening to it and go away

not so hard is it?

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Frase
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Registered: Feb 2003
Location: Coventry, Warwickshire

quote:
Originally posted by ASOT100
if trance is bothering u so much stop listening to it and go away

not so hard is it?


fucking word

people moan about how crap it is, yet they struggle to stop listening and move to a different genre

like one wise man said in this thread already, its not trance thats changed, its your taste in music, and producers dont really tend to chuck out different style of songs for each release, thats what gives them they're individuality and hence why they're different producers out there, to give the listener their own personal variation of music! If you dont like their style any more then move on.

Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez

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Boomer187
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Registered: Aug 2001
Location: USA

quote:
Originally posted by PETRAN
guys, trance is not all about big breakdowns and pro-53 strings, trance is kind of changing now into that more "progressive" sound, which it gets more and more fantastic. Go to 3beat records or tune inn they have lots of amazing new prog-trance tracks. for gods sake listen to releases from border community, producers like holden, schulz, steve porter, subsky , petter, yunus guvenen, new releases from intrinsic (which are FANTASTIC in my opinion), gwill morris, ben camp they are fantastic stuff out there. If epic trance is dying doent mean that ALL trance is dying. Someone said that the most music sucks these days, he is wrong . Pop music (and with pop i mean hip-hop and new metal as well!!!) definitely sucks, its plastic, but in the underground they are beautifull things to find, has anyone of you searched for new electronica stuff??? post-rock is a recent genre with losts of cool stuff( labradford, DNTEL, Godspeed who are now classic). Im sorry to say that but in my opinion lots of american people with the BAD musical education they receive only thing of hip-hop and new metal as cool which in reality are of extremely low quality in my opinion( ANY of it). So people get off your lazy asses and search!!!


first off, have you really given pop a true chance. I notice you term all that music under one term with negative connotation, especially on this board. I can see why lots o people would dig the music that gets played over the radio and on mtv, a lot is over produced and does not have any lasting power. But that is their thing, people like music for different reasons than you do.


also inregards to trance is turning to prog-trance, maybe its that you like that type of music, not that music is heading in that direction. I mean you listen to more music that you like than that music which you dislike, correct. So if more and more of the music you hear is more prog-trance style than epic trance, you can see where your tastes are now.

The only reason I say peoples tastes in music change over time is that it is painfully obvious in my own, I guess I can call it uneducated music listening life. I started off with metal in the late 80's, then moved on to harder metal and death metal. Then I would go through blues stages, and occasionally listen to metal, then move onto the new music that is going on til eventually I never pulled out my death metal cds. Even when I listen to some good death metal nowadays I know my taste has changed, I don't like feeling I get from it like I used to.


same goes for EDM, I like that feeling trance gives me when I hear a certain song, however I can already feel that taste is changing and I like the feeling another genre of edm is giving me. Hell I started out loving techno, then some funky house, now its trance. It sure is a long journey from death metal.


I think most people deny the fact that your taste changes over time because they are under the impression that we are static, and we cannot change. Which is way false, it is not a bad thing to have changing taste buds for music. Its all good and well, as long as you are listening to what you like and not putting down what you dislike. Its all good.

oh and I forgot about my gangsta rap days, but no one likes to talk about those days. that stuff pumps ya up.

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