I think EDM is becoming more popular these days than it was in the past... I mean, I still kinda laugh when people want to hear "Beautiful Things" by Tiësto (they must have heard it off Nyana or something :rolleyes but that demonstrates what kind of people who are coming in...

I too am not a huge fan of the people who come out to parties and cause trouble, start fights or do the "stomp" and "fist in the air routine" but it's a reflection of the popularity of the type of music we like.

Someone mentioned something about "vibe" in an earlier thread. My definition of that is going to Stereo or Aria in Montréal. I'm not knocking the Toronto scene in any way but if you want a crowd with 90% of the people who are truly there for the music, go about 5 hours east along the 401.

Boa is the closest thing to that "vibe" I felt when I saw Satoshi Tomiie in Feb there. My ultimate experience was seeing Sander Kleinenberg @ Stereo last August, that was a VIBE

Poser: an individual who pretends to be someone who they truly aren't

Elitest: an individual who doesn't associate with "lower" social groups or classes

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Originally posted by Flec if your there just for the dj and the music, stay at home and buy some mix cds

yeah right

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I AM knocking the Toronto crowd..

Most of us need a kick in the head

We need more energy in the clubs and more interaction and LESS ATTITUDE.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 I AM knocking the Toronto crowd.. Most of us need a kick in the head We need more energy in the clubs and more interaction and LESS ATTITUDE.

Typically the biggest posers are the ones who post on message boards about how much they hate "posers".

Start naming these cities you've partied in that have better and more friendly crowds than Toronto (this is going to be funny).

I've partied in alot of different cities extensively all over the world and I can tell you that Toronto brings out one of the best crowds of any city on the global clubbing circuit. I know a ton of people that drive up to 8 hours just cause they like to party in Toronto. The people in TO are cool; there's no attitude; everybody wants to have a good time; and the crowd is diverse.

-Your Mother

Lets see.... miami, new york, La, Buenos Aires, Iguacu Brazil, Rome, Amsterdam, Copenhagen and Stockholm to name a few.

Paris had stinky attitude but that was a lot to do with the fact that they thought i was american.

As for accusing me of being a poser?

BAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

Sorry but most (not all) toronto crowds have serious social phobia and movie star mentalities...

As for actual clubs... some toronto clubs are definately top and world class. Same with the music in some of the clubs here. But the crowds generally need a good head shake.

Well, as far as the ppl go, that's been fairly over-covered in this thread. What I really wanted to focus on was the clubs themselves, especially with the push of bigger venues and sound-systems lately.

I don't think there is enough $$$$ in the Toronto massive to afford all these great parties, and ppl are joing to get pretty selective, so not all the venues will be here come fall, or next summer.

Who do you think will survive the year?

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Originally posted by Jayx1 Lets see.... miami, new york, La, Buenos Aires, Iguacu Brazil, Rome, Amsterdam, Copenhagen and Stockholm to name a few.

miami, new york, La
- you've got to be fucking joking here. I've lived in 2 of these cities (NY, LA) and partied alot in Miami. LA and Miami are full of people that are too into themselves to know any better. The club scene in LA has only taken off over the past 4 years or so and LA is very much a see-or-be-seen type crowd. The same goes for Miami. The city is full of barbie dolls who bring a case of make-up with them when they go to the club... if it wasn't for the wmc, nobody would give a fuck about Miami. New York is cool and has alot of good clubs, but the vibes still pale in comparison in Toronto. Start naming clubs in these cities with crowds that are better than your average TO crowd. It should make for a good laugh.

Buenos Aires, Iguacu Brazil
- I wouldn't be surprised if the typical Brazilian vibe is as good or better than TO. People from Brazil love life and are very fun to party with. My friend Tomas used to rave about Pacha and always tells me to go there when I get the chance. He also likes TO though because the people are open, laid back, and fun to talk to.

Amsterdam
- The MDMA capital of the world... fun to party in, but London is much better.

Rome, Stockholm, Copenhagen
- These have never really been known as big clubbing cities. I dated a swedish girl in London and she never seemed to care for what Sweden had to offer in the way of clubs. She would rather party in London any day of the week because of the variety of clubs and the variety of people. And being someone whose lived in London, most of the vibes aren't as good as a top TO vibe.

-Your Mother

Ive always had a great time and met lots of people when ive gone to NYC. I didnt find the same kind of princess attitude from the girls nor did i get bad vibes from any of the guys walking around.

LA: well you have to choose wisely. If you hang out with all the movie star types you are going to get attitude. But, i went to a few clubs there and it was really chilled and not full of attitude.

Miami, again it depends where you go. But even in SOBE it was posers and partiers. It all depended on where u went. I found it to be an even 50/50 split.

Toronto definately has a nice aspect of a party scene and some decent crowds. But, these are increasingly few and far between. the vast majority here are now definately in the poser category. You get all types everywhere but what im saying is that Toronto has way more attitude and posers than most other places.

As for your comment about Stockholm etc. Ask anyone in the world about Toronto and they will not consider it a major clubbing city. And compared to London (which was pretty good as well i might add) most cities are not that major.

Even though I think there is a push for the money crowd, I don't find the social aspect is lacking in Toronto.

I just find it becoming a bit on the materialistic side is the main thing I am getting @. Clubs moving forward with dress codes, the crowd wearing slacks, dress shoes, slip dresses and heels.. etc... just doesn't feel like a party to me.

Maybe it can be chalked up to the aging of the original party-populace in this city, or the fact that clubbing is more like the disco age these days.... about the decedance as much as the music..

That said, I'm a one-man party, so none of it bothers me, just something I've observed over the past six months.

Forget about the city-by-city comparisons, Toronto is great, and world class, I just don't like the idea that some ppl are 'lower class' in the scene, just because they don't like Gucci, Prada, and Deisel.

Thats what im talking about though.... in my travels people do wear the expensive clothes but they go out to have fun and party and actually arent afraid of getting sweaty and messing their "look" up by the end of the night.

It seems to me that most club cultures know they are cool while most people in Toronto havnt convinced themselves that they are and seek approval from others. This is why you have so many "try hards" here.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 Sorry but Toronto crowds today are pretty bottom barrel as far as im concerned.

You can tell you spend a lot of time at Guv.