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charmscars
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Throw the Lieberal bums out

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http://www.teammartinsaid.ca/English/iraq.htm

“I really think Canada should get over to Iraq as quickly as possible,"
(Paul Martin, Prime Minister, North Bay Nugget, April 30, 2003)


i'd like to see the whole article- some context would be nice.

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Jayx1
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Registered: Feb 2003
Location: The Socialist People's Republic Of Canada

I love how people love to bash the Sun. OK so it isnt the traditional style newspaper. Yes it has a sunshine girl and yes it is a little bit easier to read than most.

However, the opinions expressed are very valid. Biased? Yes the opinions are biased but thats because they are opinions and editorials.

Im not defending the Sun but those who think they are somehow "better" because they read the Star need to get over themselves. I will NOT buy the Star because they are rediculously biased and they are always complaining and making scandals out of nothing. The blue jay story is an excellent example of this. As is how they tried to make the cops look racist based purely on hearsay and half truths. The Star may use bigger words but they are rediculously biased.

I personally read the Globe as it seems to deliver the best balance of news from both the left and the right. They are a middle of the road paper and not right or left.

When i want sports and opinions i turn to the sun.



As for this election. The Lieberals have done more to damage health care than anyone in history. The original deal back in the 60s for health care was that the feds pay 50% and the province pays the other half. The Liberals have now cut that to 13% making the provinces pay for 87%!!!!!

AND MARTIN HAS THE NERVE TO BLAME MIKE HARRIS FOR MCSQUINTYS TAX HIKES!!!

Meanwhile spending for health care actually WENT UP under Mike Harris.

The federal Conservatives DO NOT support 2 tier health care.

For those of you who say they do... please enlighten us... What is YOUR DEFINITION OF 2 TIER HEALTH CARE??? Then show me where in Harper's campaign it says anything about 2 tier health care.

This should be interesting

Old Post May-23-2004 20:49  Canada
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ShadoWolf
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Registered: Apr 2002
Location: State of Trance

Lieberals support "two-tier health" as defined by them.

"If some provinces want to experiment with the private delivery option, my view is that as long as they respect the single-payer, public payer, we should be examining these efforts."
(Pierre Pettigrew, Minister of Health, Toronto Star, April 28, 2004)



"In terms of private delivery, I think it has got to be judged on a case-by-case basis which is permitted under the Canada Health Act. The fact is a substantial portion of our system is already privately delivered…I certainly would not allow anything that would damage the essential foundations of our healthcare system. But I think that obviously provincial experimentation, best practices, that’s the kind of thing that I’m sure the Health Minister will look at.”
(Paul Martin, Prime Minister, CTV News: Interview with Paul Martin, Prime Minister, April 27, 2003)


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Jayx1
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Registered: Feb 2003
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McSquinty is making PRIVATE health insurance pick up the tab for many new services last Tuesday such as physio, chiropractic care and eye exams. Martin fully supports this budget and has the nerve to blame Harris for it. Meanwhile it Martin himself who cut transfer health payments to Ontario by over 80%.

If anybody has supported 2 tier health care in practice its the Lieberals themselves!

Dont fall for their scare tact line on health care because its complete lies.

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Martin best able to lead 'honest' government: poll
Last Updated Mon, 24 May 2004 11:25:50
TORONTO - A new poll suggests that more Canadians think Paul Martin is able to lead an honest and trustworthy government than the leaders of the other three major parties.

The poll, conducted for the CBC by Environics Research, says that 31 per cent of the people asked said Martin is best able to lead an honest and trustworthy government.

In the same poll, 46 per cent said they thought Martin was the most "capable" leader.



But a closer look at the number shows that 33 per cent of respondents couldn't identify any leader as best able to lead an honest and trustworthy government.

Donna Dasko, senior vice-president at Environics, says that's part of a larger problem. "On the honesty dimension, we're seeing a reflection of other polls, that indicate that Canadians are cynical [about politics and politicians]," says Dasko.

A significant 37 per cent said Martin is the most likable leader. That number is just 30 per cent in Quebec, where Martin is tied with Bloc Québécois leader Gilles Duceppe.

Conservative Leader Stephen Harper comes in second in the rest of Canada, with 18 per cent declaring him most likable. That number is just six per cent in Quebec, and 22 per cent elsewhere in Canada.

But 24 per cent said that either none of the leaders was most likable, or that they didn't know or couldn't answer.

The numbers dovetail with what other polls have suggested about voting intentions. Liberals have been polled to have up to 39 per cent of support in recent days.

The Environics poll also asked about the parties' abilities to handle certain major issues, including health care. The Liberals scored the highest of all the parties on the issues as well, which Dasko says is not surprising.

"It's largely divided on party support lines, as far as who can handle the issues," says Dasko.

But, she says, in categories including health, honesty, immigration and provincial relations, they don't score much higher.

"You see that there's not a lot of difference among the parties in terms of how they're seen to be handling the issues. That kind of finding has important consequences for the electorate. People start looking for other things that they might consider in making their voting decisions," says Dasko.

But there were some issues where the people who were surveyed said the Liberals would do better, namely Canada-U.S. relations, national security, and national unity and Quebec. In Quebec, the Bloc scored much higher on national unity and Quebec (49 per cent, versus 25 per cent for the Liberals).


The Liberals may be scoring high on their international dealings because of their decision last year to keep Canada out of Iraq. The survey suggests that nearly 80 per cent of Candians support that decision. Also, Martin put himself on the world stage by meeting with U.S. President George W. Bush in May.

Dasko says the parties will try to emphasize the issues where they score the highest.

"If the main issues are not differentiating the parties, then the parties themselves will try to get people talking about other things," she says.

The poll was conducted by telephone between May 12 and May 18. It is considered accurate within 2.14 percentage points, 19 times out of 20.

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If Canadians truly think Paul Martin is the most honest leader, after all the corruption and waste, then Canada is hopeless.


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