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Originally posted by stevebutabi we overthrew a terror regime in iraq that needed to be overthrown. the attrocities needed to end. I think the US is pretty fucking heroic for stepping up to the plate and getting it done. if you don't think that the terror regime in iraq needed to be dissolved, than your ignorance is one thousand fold of that of president bush. by the way, yeah, a lot of americans are ignorant, but so are most people in every other country. i would know, having traveled around the world several times.

actually most people in other countries are MUCH more savvy when it comes to world affairs than americans. I would know that as I have lived in and visited countless countries.

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again. iraq has no ties to al-qaeda whatsoever. one of the MANY untruths that bush would like u to believe

by terror regime, i did not mean al-qaeda. i meant saddam's regime, which used terror as means of political legitimacy. the attrocities that they put on the people of iraq were countless.

ask yourself, were they the legitimate government because the people were too scared shitless to say otherwise?

they were not legitimate, and they needed to go down.

the US made it happen.

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actually most people in other countries are MUCH more savvy when it comes to world affairs than americans. I would know that as I have lived in and visited countless countries.

that's not true. many people in other countries have views that are just as biased and false as american views. what is true is the public education system in the US is far behind that of most other developed nations.

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Originally posted by DR86 actually most people in other countries are MUCH more savvy when it comes to world affairs than americans. I would know that as I have lived in and visited countless countries.

wow the world would be such a better place if everyone were as worldly as yourself...

can we all bow in front of you now?

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Originally posted by PVD_S11DJ wow the world would be such a better place if everyone were as worldly as yourself... can we all bow in front of you now?

yes and yes on both points.

and actually the world WOULD be a better place if people left their small town and cities in the US. maybe if the people of the most advanced and powerful country knew what the hell was going on in the world, things would be different. But your average american is a dumb hick that only cares about his local town news.

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Do you all really believe Bush is solely responsible for the war in Iraq??

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Originally posted by fr0st Do you all really believe Bush is solely responsible for the war in Iraq??

no. I don't believe that he is solely responsible for this war.

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But your average american is a dumb hick that only cares about his local town news.

what are you basing this on? have you done a study, or do you work in statistics?

by making such generalizations, you are the dumb one

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Originally posted by stevebutabi what are you basing this on? have you done a study, or do you work in statistics? by making such generalizations, you are the dumb one

Did i say every american? please point that out.

Secondly i can make this observation because I've talked to countless people on the subject of politics, especialy on international affairs. These people aren't my age (17-18). I'm talkin about people in their 30's and 40's, people you'd expect to be a little more educated. Most of these people think that Allah is a totally seperate deity and are amazed to learn that Allah is just the arabic word for god. Yes, I believe that most Americans have no clue what is happening in the world. Do you honestly find it surprising that only 11% of polled 18-25 yr olds knew where Iraq and Afghanistan are in the world?

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ah

there is no question that the average american is, indeed, not well educated in international affairs.

you don't need a study to affirm that.

however, that does not make them 'dumb'

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Originally posted by stevebutabi however, that does not make them 'dumb'

don't be a bitch. take context into consideration next time.

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Last edited by DR86 on May-31-2004 at 20:37

I'm sorry if I take offense in someone calling my people dumb, 'bitch'.

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Originally posted by stevebutabi I'm sorry if I take offense in someone calling my people dumb, 'bitch'.

all i'm saying is that I wasn't calling americans stupid as in IQ deficient.

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