Wow, am I surprised to see this.

I have Asperger's. Hence why I am the "aspergian".

If you'd like to talk more about it, let me know... or visit the boards over at Aspergia.com where there is plenty of discussion.

This might serve to be a more informative link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asperger's_syndrome

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Last edited by Torley Wong on May-31-2004 at 06:56

I had this. I just realised that now.

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However, don't worry it'll grow of ya. I'm pretty much okay now.
Force yourself out, start going to the gym or even better start going to some martial arts, Karate helped me a lot.
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I spent most of my childhood/youth in front of my computer screen together with friends who were just as bad as I was
It was all about playing Monkey Island and Doom those days...

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Last edited by diffusion on May-31-2004 at 07:15

LOL... Monkey Island I and II fanatic here myself...

Oh, I must state, Asperger's is not just a social anxiety/shyness thing nor is it a simple focused interest in certain areas; it encapsulates much more.

There is so much we don't know about the human brain.

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What you guys are forgetting is he is still a child, Kami is 13/14 years old.

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Erm, I just read this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asperger's_syndrome

and I realized that I didn't have this as a child
and I don't now either

Kamikaze Badger:
Have you read this? -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asperger's_syndrome


There are a lot of details there, do you differ from any of these, maybe you're not after all.



for example:

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"They generally cannot "read between the lines", that is, figure out those things a person is implying but is not saying directly. It is worth noting, however, that since it is a spectrum disorder, a few with Asperger's are nearly normal in their ability to read facial expressions and intentions of others. They often find eye contact in particular overwhelming and find it hard to be on either the delivering or receiving end of it."

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Last edited by diffusion on May-31-2004 at 08:15

ummm, i haven't read any replys but just out of genuine concern (and im sorry if my advice seems totally odd),

but now that you are very aware of the (perceived) problem, ie. introversion, antisocialness, perhaps shyness and low confidence since these are usually associated with the frist 2 and then as a result depression (which of course is not surprising that feeling down/negative would be the consequance of having these stacked problems),

have you made a conscioius effort to change your habits, such as perhaps

- staying more active to recreate your state of mind and make you calmer and add positive energy (think swimming, or martial arts, or weightroom, or biking, or whatever)
- reading some self help books, websites or what not that discuss maybe relationship advice, healthy attitudes, healthy food choices (btw, i strongly advise you at least give the magazine MEN'S HEALTH a try, it might be pleasantly effective but by no means exhaustive source in learning about these things + its tastefully entertaining to be less boring/more beginner friendly )
- and then as you build your confidence and become looser/more relaxed around ppl (essentially becoming more extroverted), perhaps slowly take less artificial stimulation ("medication")


sorry, maybe all this is just dumb generic advice, but maybe its worth a shot.


i mean the site you linked says it clearly, asperger's disorder doesn't affect your intelligence, which you should be very greatful for, but rather your attitudes (ie. introversion, antisocialness), and as far as i know, attitudes (esp when the intelligence is there) are very much in your grasp to change for the positive if you have enough will power/discipline (and thats a BIG if), cause again you RECOGNIZE there's a problem, which is a fantastic step in itself, now you just have to have enough will power to take steps to slowly correct it, even if it means putting yourself in uncofortable positions.


like im not saying external sources, of help are bad, but ultimately, optimal (if any) progress in chaging your attitude will be made when the strong desire to change stems from within and i think the above is a part of that process so that's why i wanted to give you advice on what YOU can do for you regain/build physical and mental health and perhaps in a long time from now spiritual health(?) since you already seemed to have covered the external bit.

another TA fuck up

bet one day the shit hits the fan and he trys to end it all aplz style

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Originally posted by Technaut another TA fuck up bet one day the shit hits the fan and he trys to end it all aplz style

that's not really a nice thing to say. think about your karma

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Originally posted by diffusion that's not really a nice thing to say. think about your karma

My karma ran over my dogma

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My experience is that people that are not really sick but just not very good at something tend to put a name on it and give themselves a sickness. since I do not know you I cant tell, but from what you write it might be the case.

Maybe you're simply not very good socially and have intrests in "wrong" type of things, like DJ and computers, that won't help you meeting people. If you tell yourself that you're having a problem, soon enough you will actually have it if you get my point.

But I don't know your case. Just don't make yourself sicker than you are. Maybe try to stay away from the computer as much as possible?

Listen, I don't even like to get out and socialize with people. I prefer to be alone most of the time. I'm already pretty much isolated from the social world(unless you count the internet as a social world). DJing wouldn't make it worse at all.


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Asperger's is defined in section 299.80 of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-IV) as: 1. Qualitative impairment in social interaction, as manifested by at least two of the following: 1. Marked impairments in the use of multiple nonverbal behaviors such as eye-to-eye gaze, facial expression, body posture, and gestures to regulate social interaction 2. Failure to develop peer relationships appropriate to developmental level 3. A lack of spontaneous seeking to share enjoyment, interest or achievements with other people (e.g., by a lack of showing, bringing, or pointing out objects of interest to other people) 4. A lack of social or emotional reciprocity 2. Restricted repetitive and stereotyped patterns of behavior, interests and activities, as manifested by at least one of the following: 1. Encompassing preoccupation with one or more stereotyped and restricted patterns of interest that is abnormal either in intensity or focus 2. Apparently inflexible adherence to specific, nonfunctional routines or rituals 3. Stereotyped and repetitive motor mannerisms (e.g., hand or finger flapping or twisting, or complex whole-body movements) 4. Persistent preoccupation with parts of objects. 3. The disturbance causes clinically significant impairments in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning. 4. There is no clinically significant general delay in language (e.g., single words used by age two years, communicative phrases used by age three years) 5. There is no clinically significant delay in cognitive development or in the development of age-appropriate self-help skills or adaptive behavior (other than in social interaction) and curiosity about the environment in childhood

Those all refer to me...



Still think I'm just making stuff up?

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Last edited by Kamikaze Badger on May-31-2004 at 13:49

I don't think you're making stuff up. I just think these kinds of "disorders" exist at the margins. I mean all those criterea could to some extent apply to any number of ordinary, functioning people. I can relate to almost all of them to some extent. It's almost just a classification of a normal person who functions in a particular way, that makes it slightly harder for him to interact. Just don't beat ourself up about it and don't think of yourself as abnormal. You are you, you function in a particular way, and there is nothing about the way you interact that you can't change, if you want to.

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"also can someone post the link to my mom's forum, thank you!" - Originally posted by miamitrance04
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