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Originally posted by DJ Kibon Can anyone else comment on this one? If you're using a direct drive turntable, such as Techs, how could tweaking the speed affect the motor?

A couple of friends of mine got me a Technic DJ Academy lesson for my birthday and it was a one on one kind of thing. And that's what I was told. I don't know if he was telling me this because its a bad habit to make me stop and use the label or if it was true. But I can definately see the possibility of it causing damage. Although after how long I wouldn't know.

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as im sure most of you know..

when mixing - if you arent using the pitch, [i find] the best way to speed a record up just slighly - slide your index finger around the label [obviously clockwise!] but only just so its gliding over the paper label [slight pressure only] that way you get perfect adjustments and no jumpy pitch sounds

for slowing down - on 1200s there's a smooth metal rim around the edge of the platter, run your finger anti clockwise [again, only lightly] along that ring

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the way i usually seed up is, to use my finger on the label in the middle.. but what i do is just rest my finger on it, moving it around with he record at first, then slightly increase the speed, if you do it right you dont get the whaaararp of speeding up the record.

thats the one thing that i like about cd decks more than TT's, if you are having pitch problems on a cd deck, you can stick key lock on so you dont get a whaaarp

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Originally posted by moondog ATM i am finding it hard to tell whether the track is too fast or slow, anyone got any methods on how to decide

just comes with time mate, i must admit it took me a while when i first got my decks 9 years ago. like i was only 13 and obviosly the whole thrill of DJing wasnt as big back then, so me and my bro sorta just tried stuff and give each other tips. but your not really officially experienced until you can ell wether it needs speeding up or slowing down. and i noticed that as i stopped having a blast on the decks as much, i started not being able to pick it out as easy, so my opinion is its just down to experiance. at one point when i really felt i was on top of my game, i noticed that i just knew straight away exactly what needed doing to correct if needed, i didnt need to listen hard or anything. i wish as kick ass as i was a few years ago

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Originally posted by DJAntSmith A couple of friends of mine got me a Technic DJ Academy lesson for my birthday and it was a one on one kind of thing. And that's what I was told. I don't know if he was telling me this because its a bad habit to make me stop and use the label or if it was true. But I can definately see the possibility of it causing damage. Although after how long I wouldn't know.

Correct me if I'm wrong (and I am just going from what I have seen) but aren't the 1210's et al driven by the use of electromagnetics and as such you are not actually fighting the motor in the same way that you may find with other TTs? The reason they were designed that way surely?

(Hell I just use the things...)

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I dunno actually, see the thing about elctrical motors is they are actually pretty simple but some of the stuff that going on in them isn't. By applying your own force you could affect the electrical and/or magnetic currents. But to be honest I would recon it'd do much, unless you were like stopping it and stuff (even then I doubt it would do much). I mean an electical motor is a fairly robust thing. I wouldn't worry about using the spindle ( I don't ). But if the Technics people say so maybe it is bad since they do make exceedingly good decks or so Mr Kippling says.

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I have never heard anything about screwing up your Technics by grabbing the spindle. I don't think it will really do anything at all. What Dervish said about completely stopping the platter with your hand and leaving it that way, now that might make a difference. Otherwise I wouldn't worry about it too much.

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I've never really thought about it like that... For me its more if I know track 2 being brought in is a little slower and i've been pushin it back up to speed and adjusting the pitch accordingly. I find if I screw up and push the pitch up to high so now I have to start slowing the record being brought in down, it makes it a lot harder to realize which track is too fast at that point. The same works if youre tryin to slow the track down and go too far... Thats the only thing I got a prob with pretty much.