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igottaknow
PerfectTeeth R4 Dinosaurs

Registered: Feb 2001
Location: The Future
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| quote: | Originally posted by NYCTrancefan
Haha, I didn't even realize that however unlike the U.S. government who may consider them friends, I look upon them with contempt, indignation, callousness and a sense of zero trust in such people. Saudi Arabia is no friend of mine and I feel many Americans share those feelings. |
Bush loves to parade Saddam around for his human rights abuses, but the Saudi regime is equally as brutal, with its systematic use of torture. Recently, Brits, Canadians, and a Belgium were release after being framed for a terrorist bombing they didn't commit, tortured and imprisoned for years, and used as political blackmail.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004...ain615986.shtml
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Jun-18-2004 20:59
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MisterOpus1
Grumpy Old Fart

Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Kansas City
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| quote: | Originally posted by igottaknow
It's interesting the terrorist use the same form of execution as the our friends, the Saudi Government, I wonder if we invaded the wrong country. hmmmm... |
This is a legitimate point, esp. when we consider our current Administration's policies with the war on terror. There was a debate yesterday on NPR between Stephen Hayes and a former intelligence official from the State Dept. in regards to the "link" between Saddam and Al Qaeda. Hayes has written a book that argues a clear link, and actually a true relationship exists ( ), while the intelligence official was denouncing this supposed alliance.
A point that the intelligence official brought up was this: what is the country over the last 25 years that has sponsored, aided and abetted terrorism, and has given us the most trouble as a result of terrorism?
Iran.
He argued that invading Iraq effectively aided Iran by taking out one of it's long-time enemies, and that we have done very little to really address the terrorist issue with Iran. In light of recent news about IAEA's difficulties with Iran and their nuke capability, I can't help but to agree with his assessment.
In regards to Saudi Arabia, I know that there is an argument pertaining to 15 of the 19 9/11 hijackers coming from there, and that we should have put a great deal more pressure on them as a result. I do agree with this, but Saudi Arabia is in a dogfight with Al Qaeda terrorists now as a result of their alliance with us. Feel free to correct me, but didn't Al Qaeda mark us as an enemy once Bush Sr. agreed to set up a military base in Saudi Arabia in '89? Al Qaeda doesn't want us anywhere near the Middle East to be sure, but did this not set them off in the first place?
One way or another, Al Qaeda isn't particular fond of the Saudi Royals ever since then, and the Saudis alliance with us no doubt is a cause of a number of attacks from Al Qaeda on the Saudis (and us, of course).
Overall I would agree that we hastily invaded the wrong country. The attraction of terrorists (esp. Al Qaeda) we helped bring into the region by our invasion is certainly another big + as well.
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Whence September dusk grows crisper still,
with leaves all crimson conquered,
I yearn to shout,
and dance about,
and stick pickles in my honker...
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Jun-18-2004 21:28
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