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xKaoSx
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Registered: Jul 2002
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quote:
Originally posted by DjSway
What a wonderful world we live in! You can scratch off Middle east and Muslim nations from my travel spots.


Lordy- What country ARE we safe to travel in without armed posse?

I think both of my hands will suffice a number

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DjSway
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Is it me or this war on terror becoming more like the cruisade?

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BadBadNeil
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If we invade Syria and Iran and then Bush stands on a mountain with a white horse yelling Christian bible quotes while condeming Islam I think then it would be safe to say its a crusade.

Until that time I'm gonna stick with these are just really sick people that must realize by now that killing civilians gets them nothing in the end. It doesn't justify their cause any more.

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igottaknow
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Haha, I didn't even realize that however unlike the U.S. government who may consider them friends, I look upon them with contempt, indignation, callousness and a sense of zero trust in such people. Saudi Arabia is no friend of mine and I feel many Americans share those feelings.

Bush loves to parade Saddam around for his human rights abuses, but the Saudi regime is equally as brutal, with its systematic use of torture. Recently, Brits, Canadians, and a Belgium were release after being framed for a terrorist bombing they didn't commit, tortured and imprisoned for years, and used as political blackmail.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004...ain615986.shtml


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DjSway
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Isn't in Saudi Arabia that really cool looking hotel near the wate is?

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MisterOpus1
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Kansas City

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Originally posted by igottaknow
It's interesting the terrorist use the same form of execution as the our friends, the Saudi Government, I wonder if we invaded the wrong country. hmmmm...


This is a legitimate point, esp. when we consider our current Administration's policies with the war on terror. There was a debate yesterday on NPR between Stephen Hayes and a former intelligence official from the State Dept. in regards to the "link" between Saddam and Al Qaeda. Hayes has written a book that argues a clear link, and actually a true relationship exists ( ), while the intelligence official was denouncing this supposed alliance.

A point that the intelligence official brought up was this: what is the country over the last 25 years that has sponsored, aided and abetted terrorism, and has given us the most trouble as a result of terrorism?

Iran.

He argued that invading Iraq effectively aided Iran by taking out one of it's long-time enemies, and that we have done very little to really address the terrorist issue with Iran. In light of recent news about IAEA's difficulties with Iran and their nuke capability, I can't help but to agree with his assessment.

In regards to Saudi Arabia, I know that there is an argument pertaining to 15 of the 19 9/11 hijackers coming from there, and that we should have put a great deal more pressure on them as a result. I do agree with this, but Saudi Arabia is in a dogfight with Al Qaeda terrorists now as a result of their alliance with us. Feel free to correct me, but didn't Al Qaeda mark us as an enemy once Bush Sr. agreed to set up a military base in Saudi Arabia in '89? Al Qaeda doesn't want us anywhere near the Middle East to be sure, but did this not set them off in the first place?

One way or another, Al Qaeda isn't particular fond of the Saudi Royals ever since then, and the Saudis alliance with us no doubt is a cause of a number of attacks from Al Qaeda on the Saudis (and us, of course).

Overall I would agree that we hastily invaded the wrong country. The attraction of terrorists (esp. Al Qaeda) we helped bring into the region by our invasion is certainly another big + as well.


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Q5echo
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Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Dallas

quote:
Originally posted by DjSway
Isn't in Saudi Arabia that really cool looking hotel near the wate is?


no. dubai

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imokruok
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LATE BREAKING NEWS!

Saudi commandos have killed the killer! More to follow. Reuters and Fox News now reporting, BBC News has it on the ticker.


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igottaknow
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opus, i'm a firm believer that the public emulates the behavior of their government. In this case the Saudi's regime is very brutal and their ppl reflect it (just like we see in Iraq). Bush likes to make a big deal of Saddam but I never hear him mention what goes on in Saudi Arabia.


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BadBadNeil
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Registered: Dec 2003
Location: CT, USA!

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LATE BREAKING NEWS!

Saudi commandos have killed the killer! More to follow. Reuters and Fox News now reporting, BBC News has it on the ticker.


Just saw that as well, too bad they most likely shot them instead of beheaded them.

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Massive84
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Registered: Jul 2003
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Originally posted by BadBadNeil

Until that time I'm gonna stick with these are just really sick people that must realize by now that killing civilians gets them nothing in the end. It doesn't justify their cause any more.


bush and his adminstration killed more civilians than those people.

but i guess that does not bother you, since it's not a life taken from the USA but just from a barberic muslim nation


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Q5echo
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quote:
Originally posted by igottaknow
Bush likes to make a big deal of Saddam but I never hear him mention what goes on in Saudi Arabia.


man, i sincerely do not want to keep harping on you, but you continue failing to see a much, much larger picture than you are willing to except.

i hope for you sake you have me on your ignore list cause your starting to make me feel bad.

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