saves space for more samples...and I never said stereo is better...I'm a mono freak myself.

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Originally posted by superddman Then, why are many drum/percussion sample cds in mono if stereo is better?

because you can make them stereo in your mix perhaps? by panning or adding fx. why add extra information if you dont need it.

also..

that left+right and left-right stuff isnt true is it? a screw came lose on my mates turntable the other day which resulted with the stylus pressing unevenly on to grove, the left channel worked fine but the right channel was very quiet, this seams to indicate to me that the right channel is on one side of the grove and the left channel is on the other, which is what i was always lead to believe??

there is no point in the perc samples itself being stereo imo, but in the final result the track should have a good amount of stereo dynamics for the percussions.

a rule is that the lowest the freqs, the smaller the stereo image, the opposite goes for the higher freqs

though i did recently a track (well.. an unfinished track) with the bass VERY stereo enhanced (as in the stereo enhancing knob in the FX channel turned to the max) and it sounded good. could fuck up if pressed to vinyl?

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I don't just mean frequency wise, I mean spacial or spectral.

I don't see difference between frequence and spectrum... What do you mean with freq versus spectrum? spectrogram? spectral dynamics?

I think it's not right to think about stereo drums as samples with a lot of reverb... some kicks, toms, congas, are recorded with 2 micros one for the direct mono sound and the other for the ambience... and it's being more usual to find M-S stereo files instead L-R stereo files, as you can control easily the width of your stereo image. There's a lot of plugs that work with M-S stereo (e.g. Waves S-1) and many compressors use M-S to compress stereo tracks without disturbing stereo image. It's not difficult working with stereo drums (if they are well recorded) as they haven't too stereo width in the lower freqs (like Nature happens).

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dance type music should have a centered placed kick drum just because it is the main driver behind the tune and always needs to be in ya face

A kick with a lot of stereo info can be panned in the center... why not? it doesn't depends on stereo or mono. I don't see what are you referring about?
And mono drums can hold the ambience of the room where it was recorded... since room acoustincs do affect even mono recordings.

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ask any technician and he'll tell you mono babay! simply because of placement...vocals shouldn't get lost in the mix so keeping them mono and it just works out!

Are you sure? There's a lot of vocal recording techniques and some of them include a second micro to capture the ambience and, of course, multi micro recordings (multi polar patterns)... but don't forget something: micros for voice are really expensive, that's the reason why many vocal recorgings are mono... but currently big singer recording studios take stereo (M-S) registers. Also a lot of voice compressors and mic preamps offer link jack for stereo operation: LA Audio MPX1, TL Audio VP2051, Joemeek VC1, Focusrite GREEN VOICE BOX...

The question is that if you can get stereo samples... GET IT! Becuase from a stereo sample you could always obtain its mono version but the opposite is never possible.

And that works the same for kick, bass, voice... I agree with you that a kick recorded in a cathedral will sound horrible due to the huge reverb time at low freqs, but a decent room recording should be fine.

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Then, why are many drum/percussion sample cds in mono if stereo is better?

why are there a lot of Ford Smart if Mercedes or BMW are better?
Anyway, I haven't found any difficulty to get stereo drums libraries and specifically for electronica: for example, Dance Mega Drum AKAI.

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Last edited by shockwavedj on Jul-07-2004 at 20:17

I have read Future Music magazine(the leading producer mag) for years and what I said came straight from there...now I'm not flaming you but i still stand by what I have said, and yes there are special techniques for recording vocals..but one thing is true is that most main vocals are recorded mono...harmonies and back-ups yes probably stereo. A "stereo" track is comprised of two (2) mono tracks -- one for the left channel, and one for the right channel.
When a track is mono, it plays the same thing through the right and left speakers. If you pan a stereo track 50% left, the right track will be 50% softer, or the left track will be 50% louder -- however you want to think of it.
If you're recording a mono signal (i.e. your microphone), recording a stereo track in your software is the same as recording a mono track -- both the L and R channels are going to play the same signal. By recording a mono track, you'll probably save disk space if you're recording to a DAW.