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Originally posted by starsearcher Look at my comment above ^^ It's not the schools we should be blaming... Nobody forces you to buy coke/pepsi/or whatever anyways...they sell water too...like I said...it's the choises you make...nobody twists your arm

You're talking about me - an adult. I have the capacity to know and choose what I put into my body, and the consequences of doing so.

Children do not. Many of them have no idea that too much fast food and pop can lead them to type 2 diabetes and a lifetime of related health problems.

Youth obesity is an EPIDEMIC. Fat people are the next group of smokers - it's just the awareness about the consquences of obesity are not as well known by the public - YET.

How would you feel if cigarette companies sponsored grade school sports teams in exchange for placing cigarette vending machines in classrooms?

Doesn't it seem ABSURD?! One day fast food in schools will be too.

This is a subject I'm extremely passionate about and have read up on extensively. (children/advertising/obesity) You won't convince me that schools endorsing unhealthy food choices is a good thing, at any cost.

You may also want to watch "SuperSize me."

I think you are seriously underestimating children and their maturity today...There are plenty of 8 and 9 graders that sniff coke get drunk and fuck randomly at parties...I don't see vending machines dealing in drugs

I'd have to agree with Jayx1 this time...these companies are competing for sponsorship...the top sponsor wins and that's the only way schools can get funding for IMPORTANT things...don't blame the vendors it's not their fault...the money the schools get from them should be put to good use.

Obesity is a part of a much larger problem and it has nothing to do with vending machines in schools alone...once again little kids smoke and smoke a lot...don't tell me that they started smoking when they turned legal age of 19.

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Originally posted by starsearcher I think you are seriously underestimating children and their maturity today...There are plenty of 8 and 9 graders that sniff coke get drunk and fuck randomly at parties...I don't see vending machines dealing in drugs I'd have to agree with Jayx1 this time...these companies are competing for sponsorship...the top sponsor wins and that's the only way schools can get funding for IMPORTANT things...don't blame the vendors it's not their fault...the money the schools get from them should be put to good use. Obesity is a part of a much larger problem and it has nothing to do with vending machines in schools alone...once again little kids smoke and smoke a lot...don't tell me that they started smoking when they turned legal age of 19.

Just because something is not the sole cause of a problem does not give reason to ignore it.
Every little bit contributes to a bigger problem. Children are at school for 6+ hours a day. It is important that they have good food available.

Just because children are getting high at recess doesn't mean they know the consequences! In fact, I would imagine they DONT. That is the worst analogy I've ever heard.

If corporations didn't offer sponsorship money in return, would you still argue so strongly for fast food in schools, or would you not care either way?

This is just a matter of opinion of whether the money is worth the health of children. To me - it's not. For you - it is. I can't imagine that you're actually arguing that schools should endorse unhealthy food choices, regardless of the money involved.

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Originally posted by Skipper Just because something is not the sole cause of a problem does not give reason to ignore it. Every little bit contributes to a bigger problem. Children are at school for 6+ hours a day. It is important that they make healthy food choices. Just because children are getting high at recess doesn't mean they know the consequences! In fact, I would imagine they DONT. That is the worst analogy I've ever heard. If corporations didn't offer sponsorship money in return, would you still argue so strongly for fast food in schools, or would you not care either way? This is just a matter of opinion of whether the money is worth the health of children. To me - it's not. For you - it is. I can't imagine that you're actually arguing that schools should endorse unhealthy food choices, regardless of the money involved.

Schools dont endorse unhealthy food choises...you make it sound as if they are evil devil look a likes with horns sitting in the horner rubbing their hands and thinking....hmmm how can we make our kids unhealthy...
What I'm trying to tell you is that schools need money, and unfortunately that's the only way that they get it. Without it...the crumbling schools will completely collapse...and like I said before it's not the vendors to blame but the way governmet runs the school system.

Speaking of healthy food choises...what would you like to be served/sold at schools?

And kids do know it's bad for them they just don't care...much like the adults...so what are you gonna do? You know just as much as I do that they will get their hands on it later on anyway...

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I'm not even going to argue with you - it's pretty obvious you don't have a clue what I'm saying.

(as an aside, schools CAN operate without sponsorship money - they did for MANY years.)

So then how come we have no textbooks, less workers, more strikes, collapsing schools, smaller budgets, less janitors, less councillors and etc and etc...?

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Originally posted by starsearcher So then how come we have no textbooks, less workers, more strikes, collapsing schools, smaller budgets, less janitors, less councillors and etc and etc...?

I wonder as well, considering how much money schools get from sponsorships these days compared to years past!

Sooooooooooooo why blame the sponsors? Blame the people in charge of the school system...the money probabbly goes to their pockey anyway

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Bottom line... if kids dont get these things at school they will get them at lunch hour at the plaza or after school anyways. Who suffers? The school! Educate kids with gym and health classes. After that you cant force them to do what you want. You can trym but they will just take their money elsewhere.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 Bottom line... if kids dont get these things at school they will get them at lunch hour at the plaza or after school anyways. Who suffers? The school! Educate kids with gym and health classes. After that you cant force them to do what you want. You can trym but they will just take their money elsewhere.

My argument is based on principle.
You clearly don't have any!

Your arguement is based on dreamy lofty idealistic short sightedness. I happen to live in the real world.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 Your arguement is based on dreamy lofty idealistic short sightedness. I happen to live in the real world.

Ok fattie.