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Originally posted by paranoik0 yeah i see what you mean, MP3s will never be there imo, but some other new digital format could do it

Mp3's wont replace...TRUE. bUT Mp3's on a CD could (Offcourse very high-bit rate if you want the sub's to go full). What i mean is...there will always be a physical medium in DJ'ing....or atleast we should TRY and keep it that way. No Laptops...no PC/MAC's....no memory modules...but "We have to keep it Physical".

May not make sense...but my thoughts.

Why? What is the difference between mixing digital tracks stored on CDs or mixing digital tracks stored on a memory module or hard drive.

Its not the physical media where the music is stored that matters. The DJ's job is to use the tracks they are mixing to create a mood during their set. All the same skills would be required no matter what media the music files were on. You just would not have to be changing out CDs all the time.

The CD is a dying format. It can only hold around 800MB of data. That is shite capacity today and it will be nothing in 5 years. Its 1980s technology and is not sufficient in todays world of using broadband internet to download music. Why carry around 200 CDs when you can have 200CDs worth of music on 1 flash memory chip?

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[i][b]"We have to keep it Physical". May not make sense...but my thoughts.

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Yes Xanax, True.

But as I said in my previous post. "It may not make sense...as in your case...but they are MY thoughts".Not everything everyone thinks makes sense...hence Chaos! I cant and I wont argue. Coz what you say does make sense. So viewing it from a more practical perspective your opinion makes more sense. But my sense of opinion may not make as much sense to a sensible person like yourself.

Yes, I could imagine dj's playng music from a flash drive someday, but i dont think a really good compression will do it. Even now with large hdds, compressing to mp3 is pointless due to its shit quality. I personally compress my music to a lossless format.

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Originally posted by afastest Yes, I could imagine dj's playng music from a flash drive someday, but i dont think a really good compression will do it. Even now with large hdds, compressing to mp3 is pointless due to its shit quality. I personally compress my music to a lossless format.

But Xanax's argument still stands. Think about it: worst case scenario you just use wav files, direct CD-quality audio. Their size becomes a non-issue as the capacity of storage devices increases, the speed of broadband increases, and the size of the hardware decreases.

Hmm.. If you like an artist, you'll buy their CD in America. There aren't any CD singles. Basically CDs are the only basic format in the US.

As I've said.. I think Europe has a much larger vinyl base because of electronica genres.

I was wondering myself where I could get these new trance releases on CD single.. but there isn't. So, I'm going out and buying those vinyls. I love how cool they are.. the big picture on the front and the smell.

If that's the only way to get those beautiful trance releases, then I will buy em on vinyl. Downloading can just suck it.

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I really dont mind if the SL 1200's become the SL DZ-1200's...we hafta move on. I also dont mind if the CDJ 1000's become HDJ 1000's (Built in 350 freakin' GB HDD) maybe supports Mp3's,Wav's and what not....as long as the way we control it remain like a TT. Like the CDJ's the S5000's the SLDZ's....I would not adapt to a Laptop, PC or MAC or any software. The "feel" has got to be there.

As far as bad quality of sound in MP3 goes...yes..its not as high as a Vinyl or CD...but compress at 256kbps and you cant tell no matter how awesome the sound system.

Also I see the "DJ" go beyond the 2 TT and 2 CD setup....maybe 5 years down the lane...he will have to be more creative.

Welcome guys...the evolution of the "DJ" is about to begin!

Me out.

The sentence up there was a bit twisted....this is what I meant.

I really dont mind if the SL 1200's become the SL DZ-1200's...we hafta move on. I also dont mind if the CDJ 1000's become HDJ 1000's (Built in 350 freakin' GB HDD) maybe supports Mp3's,Wav's and what not....as long as the way we control it remain like a TT as the CDJ's the S5000's the SLDZ's its good in my books.

But I would not adapt to a Laptop, PC or MAC or any software. The "feel" has got to be there.

cheers.

lots of interesting stuff being brought up...thanks for the good discussion


i can completely see the argument in terms of the use of laptops etc becoming dominant. Cobalt or someone mentioned that older vinyl will not be re-released as cd's, but when you think of the mp3's out there...its very possible that anything ever released could be made available to everyone through downloading. i mean why not? its of practically no cost to the record companies and if an older track is dl'd even 10,000 times...they're gonna be making money on a tune that they otherwise wouldn't have.

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Originally posted by Rukahs no, thats not what i'm saying. i'm stating that what your original post said was probably an article in a news paper asking our parents what they are going to do now that CD's were going public (1983).

completely agree.
a topic like this belongs in an '83 music magazine, not in a thread from '04

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Originally posted by Floorfiller so the vinyls are only really pressed for those of us that are buying them. so what about when cd releases become faster than vinyl releases...or mp3s for that matter? than those of us that are waiting for the vinyl are behind the music. of course i really want vinyl to stay in, but if people realize that to be the most update with whats new they have to have cd's and mp3s then the pressing of vinyl will most likely become less and less desirable.

1. mp3 releases allready come out faster then vinyl...

2. having the most uptodate music doesnt make you a better dj!

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