Alot of replies in this thread talk abot house DJs being better suited with rotary knob faders...I don't understand the discrepancy between being a trance DJ and house DJ, or are you just using the term to aggregate electronica vs. scratch?
Aug-01-2004 02:48
dj chex
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When my friend Sean had residencies at BeachAM and HoB in Florida, he would sometimes request a rotary mixer like a mp2016 for alot of his more chilled out sets. However i believe he also liked using a mixer w/ faders too for his more house sets where he may of scratched a little.
I personally would love to have a rotary just for stickly mixing purposes, however, that doesn't mean i'll replace my empath w/ a rotary.
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Aug-01-2004 03:00
GHOSH
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I think perhaps if you were that picky about sound quality, then yes probably the rotaries. I think in an event or club venue, i have not run into a sound set up that is so clear and percise that even the most decerning people would pick up on the sound difference between fader and rotary. Live, i prefer faders, no question. Even at home, I prefer them, but if you are making one of those super long, super precise CDs or what have you, you may go for a rotary.
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Aug-01-2004 13:09
Thomas Nobones
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I still scratch and do cuts, but I just use the crossfader. The rotors just make for such smooth creamy mixes.
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Sorry but rotary mixers sound no better than up fader mixer, I know because I've used both on the same set up. There no loss of quality in sound if you replaced rotary fader with up faders. Its the quality of the mixer itself that makes the difference. You can maybe get a little bit of a smoother mix with rotary if you are more comfortable with it, but I don't think anybody can get smoother than John Digweed, and he uses up faders.
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Aug-01-2004 23:59
Thomas Nobones
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Originally posted by hooj1
Sorry but rotary mixers sound no better than up fader mixer, I know because I've used both on the same set up. There no loss of quality in sound if you replaced rotary fader with up faders. Its the quality of the mixer itself that makes the difference. You can maybe get a little bit of a smoother mix with rotary if you are more comfortable with it, but I don't think anybody can get smoother than John Digweed, and he uses up faders.
So what, it's a competition now? It all comes down to personal preference.
If sound Quality was such and issue why whould a Pioneer DJM-500 is used in a big club with a really good sound systeme ???
I Don't think it make a big difference it must be more of a personel taste.
Aug-02-2004 17:17
hooj1
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Originally posted by Thomas Nobones
So what, it's a competition now? It all comes down to personal preference.
exactly the point I was making. I thought people would understand that being I said rotary mixers can be smoother if you are COMFORTABLE with them. I was also trying to lend some insight to a common misconception people have about rotary mixers. Oh well sorry I upset you
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some of my best mixing was on a mackie production console with rotary knobs and a 5 band eq
it just made for a smooth seamless buttery mix
of course it was prog house... wish i recorded that set
have no clue as to why i posted this... i guess to stress the fact that rotary mixers serve a more useful purpose if you're looking for long smooth mixes
I had my first experience with a rotary (Xone 92 rotary version) and I noticed that it was much easier to control the volume levels precisely. However, if you're not using the crossfader (which many DJ's don't), it is very tough to drop the new track in quickly. The rotary knobs have resistance to them, and you have to crank it pretty far in order to bring in the full signal. I couldn't really make the changes that I wanted to make in the mix quickly enough with the rotary unless I used the X-fader as well.
I personally prefer a line fader mixer and if I have to make slight precise changes in the mix I'll make them on the gain knobs.
Some top DJ's use a mixer like the Xone V6 to record mix compilations because of the higher quality of sound output. That specific mixer can warm up a CD and make it sound just like a vinyl. The sonic quality is simply amazing. If you can afford it and need to make some really serious recordings, that is probably the way to go.