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JRinger
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Registered: Jun 2003
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Deception? that's ridiculous....anybody with any intelligence knows exactly what was implied by "sending troops to Iraq".....if the Conservatives and their supporters want to continue down the road of trying to discredit and campiagn against the Liberals, even after the voters have spoken, go right ahead - people will get tired of it.

ps> Canada's peacekeeping forces are among the most highly regarded in the world.

Old Post Jun-29-2004 16:17  Canada
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ChadVanDyk
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Registered: Nov 2002
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Originally posted by Jayx1
Nope.. they are one seat shy.

the combined total makes up 154. They need 155 which means they have to work with either the Bloc or the Conservatives.


Or become friends with Chuck Cadman. I don't think he woke up yesterday thinking he would have such importance at the end of day. An Independent candidate with so much power...how ironic.


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TrueToTheCrew
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Registered: Jan 2002
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as per sending our troops into Iraq under NATO issue. We are obligated to do our part under NATO. Chretien said it from the beginning, we would be involved only under NATO.


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RWC0412
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Registered: Jan 2003
Location: Windsor,Ont.

I beg to differ on the NDP/Liberal alliance,,,

you need 155 seats to hold a majority in the house of commons and the liberals have 135,,,,, NDP have 22


135+22= 157,, then you have to minus the one speaker that raises the subject, sooooo they have a 156 majority,, Im glad this has happend, a minority liberal government with ties to the NDP party can be only good for out social programs and left winged ideas...

Old Post Jun-29-2004 16:54  Canada
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JRinger
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^^^ the updated results have the NDP with only 19 seats ( http://enr.elections.ca/National_e.aspx )...combined with the Liberals 135, this leaves them 1 seat shy of the 155 they need

the NDP dropped a few seats very late last night when some of the last polls reported in some of the ridings with close races....with some mandatory recounts, the actual final tally may not be known for a while

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ChadVanDyk
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quote:
Originally posted by RWC0412
I beg to differ on the NDP/Liberal alliance,,,

you need 155 seats to hold a majority in the house of commons and the liberals have 135,,,,, NDP have 22


135+22= 157,, then you have to minus the one speaker that raises the subject, sooooo they have a 156 majority,, Im glad this has happend, a minority liberal government with ties to the NDP party can be only good for out social programs and left winged ideas...


Where do you see this....Canada.com has the following breakdown:

LIB 135
CON 99
BLOC 54
NDP 19
OTH 1

This is what we are referring to.


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Tordan
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Registered: Jun 2002
Location: Toronto, Canada

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Wait...you mean Canada actually has troops???


Yes and US air force pilots like to use them for target practice, as we saw when four of are soldiers were "mistaken" for the taliban.


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RWC0412
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Registered: Jan 2003
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OOpsss,,, well didnt see that, srrrry,, sucks the seats dropped out,

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starsearcher
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Registered: Jan 2003
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Yes and US air force pilots like to use them for target practice, as we saw when four of are soldiers were "mistaken" for the taliban.


oh yeah that's right...almost forgot about that one


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walkindude
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Registered: Nov 2003
Location: Toronto, Canada

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I think Paul Martin is a frequent visitor to the Guvernment nighclub as well...I'm sure he'll see your post any minute now


funny....

Old Post Jun-29-2004 17:39  Bahrain
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MarkT
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Toronto

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Originally posted by Jayx1
Nope.. they are one seat shy.

the combined total makes up 154. They need 155 which means they have to work with either the Bloc or the Conservatives.


No...they just need that ONE Green Party vote...which, given NDP support on an issue, should be MUCH easier to obtain than working too closely with Harper.

Harper may head the official opposition, but Layton will have far more influence than he in this gov't (thank goodness).

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MarkT
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Originally posted by Jayx1
Actually... the Liberals and Conservatives are closer in many ways. The Liberals are pretty closet conservatives with politically correct thinking (or red tories as most people refer to them as).

This is why Martin forced out the lefter leaning Liberals such as Sheila Copps.

Read the 2 platforms of the parties and then tell me that the Liberals and Conservatives are radically different.

PS did you know that on Sunday our Foreign Affairs minister announced he'd be sending Canadian troops to Iraq under a NATO command?

Canada..... shafted again!


The Liberals maintained that they wanted a U.N. mandate on Iraq before committing troops...something that never happened.

Given the transfer of power...and given that NATO could assume command of future operations there, I don't see any radical inconsistency in the Liberal position. The point was that the U.S. and their "coalition of the willing" didn't give a shit who supported their plans to invade...and who looks stupid now...yep, Bush and Blair. If we'd participated, you'd probably be slamming the Liberals for illegally invading Iraq too

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