psy is something i dont care much about.

it is what it is...yet if i need to get freaked out there are other avenues.


crappy repeating sounds do not do that for me.

and i dont think that shpongle is psy, more like decent EDM jam band music that has been incorporated|

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Originally posted by DJ Rat 187 A lot of the good Psychedelic Trance and GOA is way too complicated to hit the main stream but that's the way I like it, things become corrupt, over-run with controversy and cheese etc. look what happened to trance

That's the case with a lot of things, innit? No worries, despite what "most musicians" do, there'll always be a few operating out of their own mode, independently and defiantly. Some of them will undoubtedly become popular in what is a bizarre paradox phenomenon of sorts.

Shpongle is mostly slotted in there because it's fronted by Simon Posford and his mate Raja Ram... and we all know what other music Simon is responsible for, eh?

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I love psy trance. it goes with whatever mood Im in, be in happy, sad, trippy etc. In jakarta where I live, they do play psy at various clubs and at any given time, 90% of the crowd tend to be rolling on E. nevertheless it is a style with quite a niche market I would say. For the average joe, it is not something they often find appealing at first account, but is something you need to have listened or experienced for a while before you really appreciate psy at its best.

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I may be reading way too far into this, but i think people are unwilling to listen to it because it is generally concieved to be "hippy music" or "weird people" listen to it. If they dont listen to it, then they sure as hell arent going to go to a psy party.

Another thing to note, they guys dont do world tours and get out there and spam themselves, i know australia has a very healthy psy scene, every psyman and his dog comes out to play at least once a year. What im trying to get at is that you would only get one chance to catch talamasca or dark nebula once a year as opposed to tiesto or armin whose here twice or maybe 3 times a year.

I still think its fairly underground meaning the yanks haven't got their hands on it yet

psy is huge in portugal, and "normal trance" unexistent

to be fair the kind of psy john 00 fleming plays, and people around this website usually like (astral projection, yahel, etc), sounds mega fake and even cheesy for my ears. i'm curious to know what the real underground stuff sounds like, if there's a big difference. but i doubt that i'd like it

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for all your psytrance vinyl needs, check out:
www.psyshop.com
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www.saikosounds.com

allthough i dont have experience with buying from them.

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Originally posted by biznology psy is something i dont care much about. it is what it is...yet if i need to get freaked out there are other avenues. crappy repeating sounds do not do that for me. and i dont think that shpongle is psy, more like decent EDM jam band music that has been incorporated|

bhahahahahahahahahhaa

ridiculously stupid post of the day award

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Whew, what a can of worms

On the vinyl issue... for all intents and purposes, if you want to spin psytrance, you're going to be doing it on CD. Very little vinyl comes out these days, though there is enough to augment your trance or progressive sets with some very appropriate material. Why did this happen? It is a matter of market conditions stemming from many factors, mostly economical by now.

Point 2: Yahel is not psy

As for where you might find some records to purchase, I highly recommend the aforementioned www.saikosounds.com ...better yet they have very extensive realaudio samples usually running about 4 mins per song, and these can give you quite a good idea of the sound. I'll mention some names to check out for trance/prog fans, and if you don't get on the p2p networks I highly recommend you hit up saiko for some samples.

If you have a bad opinion of psytrance as stupid weird-sounding music for hippie freaks, dispose of that now. There is still plenty of that but even I don't really like it much. What has grown in the past few years is quality music that has plenty of appeal for prog/trance fans and that's just what I'm asking about. Here are some recent releases you should check out:

Human Blue - Electrolux (if the lush breakdown on Rollercoaster doesn't get you, what will? J00F commands you!)
FREq - Strange Attractors (kiwi prog of the highest quality, plenty of melody)
Son Kite - Colours (pretty much the monument of the year, BE SURE to hear "On Air" and give it a chance, this tune is massive)
Atmos - 2nd Brigade (trance and prog fans alike take note!)
Phony Orphants - Symphony (another album for the prog fans, a little dark)
Etnoscope - Drums from the Dawn of Time (tribal proggy psychedelic all-over-the-place)
Tegma - Encoded/Decoded (unique trancey sound)

All but the HB came out on 2LP as well!!

Try out some of those albums and see if your opinion of the psytrance genre changes at all.

it's because of the damn kick that's in 90% of the tunes
i like a bunch of psy, but i hate those "gonk gonk gonk" kicks

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, true

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gotta love psy..its just because psy is weirder. people mabye dont understand it ?

liking psy is like befriending the weird dirty kid with the glasses & bowl cut sitting in the corner...where am i going with this..

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I think the reason why many Trance fans don't listen to psy is simple lack of knowledge about it.

I live in an area where finding Trance / Prog / Breaks shows takes a significant drive, and if someone doesn't recommend an artist or song to me on these forums, then I'm not going to know about it. This factor is born out by the number of people who talk above about their countries having buregoning psy scenes, it's about information and access.

The other, smaller, but present factor is closed-mindedness. The same kind of people who denigrate rap fans for allowing Trance to be eclipsed are often the first to say that prog is crap, or that IDM is shite, or that any style which steps very far outside their tightly defined notion of 'good' music isn't worth listening to.

Fortunately, there are also a lot of very open minded TA's who are willing to give anything a go, but in any 'underground' scene there are people who are so into their own little niche that they feel a compulsive need to slag on everything else. Sad, but inevitable, and tolerable if one at least expects it, which I do at this point....

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