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Gee, you make it sound like Jews is some helpless species of salamanders.
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What a pile of historically ignorant crap. The collaborationist Vichy government helped the Nazis deport Jews to the death camps. This was nothing unique to France. As mentioned previously in the thread, with the except of Bulgaria and most of the Scandinavian countries, every nation of Europe assisted in helping the Nazis with the Jewish problem. The extermination of Jews wasn't carried out only by the Nazis, it was THE ENTIRE CONTINENT OF EUROPE. Perhaps your history classes neglected to mention it, because the past can be so....inconvenient?
| quote: | Second, your logic presupposes that abstaining from interfering when others are subjected to a crime, makes you accesary to that crime. I do not believe that is a clear moral self-evident truth.
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I would tend to agree, but last time the French tried this it got a few dozen thousand Jews killed.
| quote: | Third, [sarcasm-mode-on] why didn't the Jews do a better job of protecting their Messiahs? How about not trying to assasinate their great philosophers (Spinoza)? And rallying behind their great leaders (Rabin)? I guess the burden of proof is on Jews to show that they are actually decent people...[sarcasm-mode-off]
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I think most Jews were shocked and mortified when Rabin was assassinated, even those who disagreed with his peace-making efforts. He was, after all, an Israeli war hero.
Ok, some links (and copy/paste when the original article is no longer available online) for you:
Boy stabbed in anti-Semitic attack in Belgium
Mural by Jewish child prisoners in WW2 desecrated in France (from Ha'aretz).
| quote: | PARIS - Vandals have desecrated a mural painted by Jewish children during World War Two in a transit camp in southern France where they were held before deportation to Nazi Germany, police said Sunday.
The desecration, which a historian reported to police Friday, follows a recent rise in anti-Semitic crimes in France, home to Europe’s largest Jewish community of some 600,000.
The mural, a painting of a countryside scene, was found almost completed chipped away. Vandals smashed through a wall to get at the mural, which was protected by bars. The abandoned site outside Perpignan, near the French border with Spain, served as a transit camp from 1941 to 1942 under France’s collaborationist Vichy regime.
Some 2,000 Jews were held there. Most were then moved to Drancy, near Paris, and then to Nazi concentration camps.
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French Cemetary vandalism, April 30 2004

Center in France Set on Fire (March 23 2004 from AP).
| quote: | The assailants broke a window at the center in the southwestern city of Toulon and doused the interior with a flammable liquid that was then set on fire, police said. Several walls were blackened by flames, but there were no injuries.
It was not clear who carried out the attack, but officials note that such violence tends to coincide with rising Mideast tensions. A day earlier, Israel assassinated Sheik Ahmed Yassin, founder and spiritual leader of militant group Hamas.
Yves Haddad, who leads the local Jewish community, expressed “disgust and sadness” at the attack, saying it might be “an importation of what’s happening in the Middle East.”
“If they wanted to scare us, they made a mistake,” Haddad said.
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Jewish cemetery at Auschwitz vandalized
Vandals Put Swastikas on Graves in France (November 26, 2003 from AP)
| quote: | PARIS - Vandals desecrated tombs at a Jewish cemetery in southern France, carving swastikas and other Nazi symbols into the headstones, officials said Tuesday.
Prime Minister Jean-Pierre Raffarin condemned the attack in Marseille as a "hateful manifestation of anti-Semitism."
Seven tombs at the Trois-Lucs cemetery were covered with graffiti or damaged by pelted rocks, said Alain Marc, an official at the regional prefecture.
French President Jacques Chirac promised a tough crackdown on anti-Semitism after an arson attack on a Jewish school outside Paris this month. There were no injuries, but the building was gutted.
In the last two years, France has suffered a wave of violence against Jewish schools, temples and cemeteries that coincided with new fighting in the Middle East. Many of the attacks have been blamed on young Muslims
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Vandals in Germany Deface Memorial (July 26 2003 from NewsDay).
| quote: | MAGDEBURG, Germany -- Vandals defaced a memorial to Nazi slave labor camp victims, plastering the former camp buildings with anti-Semitic newspapers, police said Tuesday.
Visitors to the Langenstein-Zwieberge memorial found the damage Monday. Police said vandals used copies of newspapers from 1933 to 1945, the years the Nazis ruled Germany. There were no arrests.
The vandalized buildings had been a satellite of the Buchenwald concentration camp. The Nazis used the subcamp, built in 1944, to house slave laborers building an underground aircraft factory.
About 5,000 people were interned at the camp, and more than half are believed to have died.
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These are just what I have saved on my computer from the last year, and only scratches the surface of the extent of the problem.
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