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Originally posted by Ian^ please 'evolve' into a non-wanker-type-person first then

I agree. I think the "too lazy" is just him not being able to find anything.

I still think he needs to make the decision for himself, instead of letting people who he's never met make the decisions for him.

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Originally posted by her throat cut i am just giving an example of how things evolve. you dont think vinyl will stick forever now do you??

Well, you don't think CDs will be sticking around forever now do you? In about 50 years there is supposed to be almost no oil left to make all these CD's and vinyls from. Time to move on to "liquid music" :P

Not to mention the fact that your post simply sucks. You give no point at all that is valid. Just because every DJ moves on with technology doesn't mean we're old-fashioned for using vinyl. They will all still use vinyl; for as long as it exists. And there is nothing smoother than mixing with vinyl, where your hand controls the music, and not your computer or your BPM counter.

If we weren't progressive and evolving we'd all be listening to 50's music or dress like the Beatles. No sir, I'm happy that I am a progressive person. I like this hi-tech clothing and my designer Apple Computer and everything that involves technology, tyvm.

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Originally posted by her throat cut not only CDs. laptops!!! heloooooo!!! welcome to 21st Century!

u mix on a computer u think ur in the future erm.. no get of the computer and try mixing properly and also uve just shot ur self in the foot there djs use laptops cose of final scratch and that is played through decks with vinyl on

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Originally posted by her throat cut in trance you put the vunyl for minutes and not much to do. in techno and more serious dance music, you need to keep working on the turntables non-stop. its making you tired.

If it's making you tired then why do you DJ to start with?

Also, I would like to see Jeff Mills mixing 60 tracks per hour using CD's. The time to load the CD takes longer than choosing a record, laying it on the deck and putting the needle on.

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Hmmm... get off your high horse and quit trolling the forums. You are probably the person that downloads all music from p2p programs, mixes them together, and calls themselves a dj. Give me a break.

Like what was said above, the dj's never said vinyl sucks, they just think that cd's are more practical and easier to transport and allow for more music. I'll agree with this. Let me ask this: if vinyls sucked so much, why have they been around so long and are still being used? Standard records like we use today have been manufactured since the early 1940's (I think), which is 60+ years.

Yes, vinyls may eventually go completely, but I can't see that for a while yet. Unless ALL dance music releases, past and present are readily available on cd or WAV quality, then vinyls will still be used for dj'ing purposes. This may never happen, as some labels may not be financially up for re-releasing all tracks in digital format. Vinyl may be the only way to play certain tracks, unless of course, you download illegally everything.

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Originally posted by her throat cut well call me dumb then because i am using new technology and you are stick with the old vinyl that was big when....hmm years and years ago. i never tought to say it sucks because i knew how most will react, but now after seeing the biggest djs in the wolrd saying it does indeed suck, then i have nothing further to prove.

That arguement is fundamentaly flawed.

A: it's hardly new technology, CD has been around for a long time now and no one here is disputing the sound quality is better.
Many Dj's happily use both mediums, vinyl and CD.

B: The Biggest DJ's in the world are still using vinyl, if you are referring to Dj's like Sasha or PvD, then you need to keep a closer eye on them, PvD still takes his record box around with him and his CD wallet, He is not exclusively using final scratch, at Sensation White just recently PvD combined all 3 mediums, Vinyl, Cd and his laptop.

C: not a single DJ who is using CD or Final Scratch has said Vinyl sucks, they all regard vinyl with the utmost esteem, they embrace the use of final scratch and CD because they are always on the move and its far easier to make sure they have the latest tracks with a laptop or cd than to have vinyl shipped to where ever they happen to be.
They can download a MP3 and play it that night, or a producer at a gig can hand over a freshly burnt CDr to a dj in the booth for instant playage.

D: The use of vinyl is not going to go away any time soon, turntables still outsell any other type of equipment or instrument.
If vinyl was about to go, then decks would not be selling as well as they are.

E: When CD came out over 15 years ago, people said then it would be the end of vinyl, that is not the case and in fact more vinyl was sold last year than at any other point in the last 10 years.

F: As a DJ myself i will continue to use Vinyl as long as it exists, i also use CD.
Vinyl seems more real, has more warmth and depth to it where as CD is too cold, a real Dj knows how fulfilling it is to spin with vinyl.

In conclusion i am not saying new technology is bad, as long as the music reaches the audience then any medium is ok but for you to say that Dj's that spin with vinyl are outdated and that vinyl sucks is a very immature attitude to have.

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oh well.
stick with vunyls then.

but remember what one of the best djs Sasha said....
“I think it is going to reinvent the role of the DJ and sort the men from the boys”

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Originally posted by Wicked Neo That arguement is fundamentaly flawed. A-F here.

I bow to you, sir.

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Originally posted by her throat cut oh well. stick with vunyls then. but remember what one of the best djs said.... “I think it is going to reinvent the role of the DJ and sort the men from the boys”

Which DJ? It doesn't help when we don't get a name with the quote.

sorry, i edited and posted the name.
it is in the link.

most certainly they will go together as i see it.

i just think people who keep spining on vinyl alone are way undeveloped as djs.