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Originally posted by mndeg how many threads do you see that go like "techno sucks" or "progressive house sucks" none

There again, you are shooting yourself in the foot. Look at all the progressive house vs. trance threads and you'll see what I mean. People love to bash progressive house for being too boring and/or too slow, and to them, it does suck. Actually, I think progressive gets just as much bashing as trance does.

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Originally posted by mndeg i listen to mainstream rap a lot (im forced to by the media), how often do edm genre elitists listen to trance? rarely if ever I never judge a rap song by listening to it for 10 seconds

How do you know how they decide it's crap? Many elitists used to love trance before discovering prog or whatever, and now dislike it. You really don't have anything to back this up with.

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I can only speak for myself, and I'm not qualified to judge a whole genre or even a subsubstyle on its merits until I have listened to every single piece of music ever written under that banner, whether that be deliberately or incidentally (i.e in hindsight it was retro-categorized).

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Originally posted by mndeg what is it with elitists that think trance is like pop?

That thing called a brain.

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Do they NOT listen to trance or what?

Probably more than you do.

I always wondered why the people over at discogs were always saying that Epic Trance is for kiddies who have no taste. Then I realized that most of them are over 30 years old and have been listening to EDM for at least 15 years.

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everyone is elitist in some way cuz we don't listen to certain genres or certain artists.

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Originally posted by Radagast I always wondered why the people over at discogs were always saying that Epic Trance is for kiddies who have no taste. Then I realized that most of them are over 30 years old and have been listening to EDM for at least 15 years.

You're annoying me more than the thread starter here. I would make my own decisions about my tastes instead of following others, if I were you.

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> Live @ Dance:Love:Hub London, 11.10.2025
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> Dance:Love:Hub Afterparty (The Return) 23.11.24

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J You're annoying me more than the thread starter here. I would make my own decisions about my tastes instead of following others, if I were you.

What in the fuck? We've got another Dr. Phil here.

We all learn things by garnering information from those who know more about a subject than we do, or by "following others" as you put it, but I didn't follow anyone. My taste changed on it's own. I am figuring out why it did so on my own though, by looking at informed sources. What do you want me to do, look deeply into my soul or go on a spirit journey after smoking a peace-pipe? Come join me in a place called reality my friend. It's fun here.

And all that aside, what I was really trying to convey was that it just gave me a different perspective outside of my own. Simmer down hot shot.

Please, someone else tell me what i'm thinking or assess the state of my mental health after reading a paragraph that I wrote on an internet message forum. It's not ridiculous.

EDIT: Let's look at something else shall we? You people are of the general consensus that Trance music is underground and not pop. You also agree that I just follow others, at least in my musical tastes. If those statements were both true I wouldn't be here. I'd be on the britneyspears.com forums or some such. Think about that.

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Last edited by Radagast on Aug-28-2004 at 19:29

I can't be bothered to argue with your elitist crap. There's obviously no changing your outlook on music, so I won't even bother.

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> Live @ Dance:Love:Hub London, 11.10.2025
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> Dance:Love:Hub Afterparty (The Return) 23.11.24

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J I can't be bothered to argue with your elitist crap. There's obviously no changing your outlook on music, so I won't even bother.

Don't bother, you probably shouldn't.

You have no idea what my outlook on music is. And in fact, without saying that you are, there's a good chance that you may be the elitist. How can I be an elitist when I only dislike one subgenre of a much larger and more varied music genre? I don't understand that part.

I mean I thought elitists just listen to one genre of music and claim it to be the best over all others. Am I not correct?

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Originally posted by Radagast I mean I thought elitists just listen to one genre of music and claim it to be the best over all others. Am I not correct?

No, not at all.

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> Maximum Elevation [Progressive House]
> DI.FM 26th Anniversary Guest Mix [Progressive House]
> Live @ Dance:Love:Hub London, 11.10.2025
> Higher Peaks [Progressive House]
> Dance:Love:Hub Afterparty (The Return) 23.11.24

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J No, not at all.

So what is an elitist then?

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Originally posted by Radagast So what is an elitist then?

Someone who's music tastes are based on what they think they "should" listen to, to appear either alternative, or knowledgeable, or just generally musically elite.

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> Maximum Elevation [Progressive House]
> DI.FM 26th Anniversary Guest Mix [Progressive House]
> Live @ Dance:Love:Hub London, 11.10.2025
> Higher Peaks [Progressive House]
> Dance:Love:Hub Afterparty (The Return) 23.11.24

Like these sets? Come see me play live at Kibosh in Manchester: https://www.instagram.com/kibosh.mcr/