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Originally posted by m0-0n @ MASSIVE84 - I don't use Fruity Loops, but should he download the free ASIO driver to improve the latency of his generic soundcard? I use the ASIO4ALL driver on my laptop and it has works great with Cubase SX2. I only use my laptop when traveling but the ASIO4ALL driver seems stable and prevents latency issues. Here's the link if you need it: http://michael.tippach.bei.t-online.de/asio4all/ @ mellankali - Your PC sounds powerful enough to run FL for sure. Get a midi keyboard (Evolution 249C is good) and you're in business. Then if you find that you're serious about making music, invest in a nice set of monitors (speakers) - Mackie HR824's will make you smile! m0-0n

for sure! not as difficult as some people make it out to be. A simple midi controller or keyboard with midi enabled is really all you need apart from your software. I just started off with a handy down Yamaha PSR-230 keyboard

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5.Evolve - Safe To Dream (Thrillseekers Remix)

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Originally posted by Alexan You can't expect a self proclaimed newbie who only just installed a demo of FL onto his PC to be able to use Cubase can you?

I agree

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Originally posted by ZxZDeViLZxZ thats why there are numours pdf guides and pressing f1 will point you in the right direction.

Would you be able to point me in the direction of some of these PDF guides? As of right now, I'm stuck with an online manual that basically describes what things do, but not really how to use any of them!

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Originally posted by ZxZDeViLZxZ agreed reason can do good shit but i still state that reason tracks that are done souly in reason are shit. not musically but sound wise it all sounds the same. now if you rewire reason then why even bother with reason just use cubase seriously now, its not a load of bullshit and soundcard does matter quite a bit with vstis. and to clearly say tis load of crap without evens aying whats crap si rather ignorant. what i siad was rather usefull, and no you dont need a bad ass card you just need one that can do higher smaple rates and can produce better sounds. on another note is your soundcard a built in soundcard or not, usually built ins really suck ass. even going out and buyign a 20dollar sound blaster card will make things sound better

Tell that to MK-S. He sure feels like an ass producing a popular trance tune with nothing but Reason and a built-in soundcard now.

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Originally posted by m0-0n @ MASSIVE84 - I don't use Fruity Loops, but should he download the free ASIO driver to improve the latency of his generic soundcard? I use the ASIO4ALL driver on my laptop and it has works great with Cubase SX2. I only use my laptop when traveling but the ASIO4ALL driver seems stable and prevents latency issues.

FLStudio supports DirectX and ASIO drivers

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Top 5:
1.Yahel Feat. A-Force - Behind Silence
2.Phynn - Lucid
3.Fred Baker Vs. Keyboards Kids - All Of Us (Fred Baker Mix)
4.Perry O'Neil - Wave Force (Özgür Can Vs. Yilmaz Remix)
5.Evolve - Safe To Dream (Thrillseekers Remix)

Old favourites:
Marco Bailey & Redhead - Watch Out
Matt Darey Presents Li Kwan - Point Zero 2004
Fictivision Vs. C-Quence - Symbols (Original Mix)

so i've been messing around with FL Studio the past few days, and things are sort of starting to make sense. i also downloaded and had at the reason demo for about 15 minutes before i just about gave up because i had no idea what the hell was going on. although i must say, it was kind of cool to look at the software as though it were hardware.

anyways, i was wondering if anybody might be able to enlighten to me as to why programs like reason, cubase, or logic cost hundreds of more dollars than fruity loops? being a beginner at this stuff, it seems like in the end you will get the same result. or am i totally wrong?

thanks!

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Originally posted by mellankali so i've been messing around with FL Studio the past few days, and things are sort of starting to make sense. i also downloaded and had at the reason demo for about 15 minutes before i just about gave up because i had no idea what the hell was going on. although i must say, it was kind of cool to look at the software as though it were hardware. anyways, i was wondering if anybody might be able to enlighten to me as to why programs like reason, cubase, or logic cost hundreds of more dollars than fruity loops? being a beginner at this stuff, it seems like in the end you will get the same result. or am i totally wrong? thanks!

RTFM man!

Logic and such cost more because they are more technical and more powerful programs than FL Studio and it took more programming power to make them. Don't worry 'bout them now anyways, just learn everything there is to klnow about FL Studio.

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1.Yahel Feat. A-Force - Behind Silence
2.Phynn - Lucid
3.Fred Baker Vs. Keyboards Kids - All Of Us (Fred Baker Mix)
4.Perry O'Neil - Wave Force (Özgür Can Vs. Yilmaz Remix)
5.Evolve - Safe To Dream (Thrillseekers Remix)

Old favourites:
Marco Bailey & Redhead - Watch Out
Matt Darey Presents Li Kwan - Point Zero 2004
Fictivision Vs. C-Quence - Symbols (Original Mix)

Cakewalk SONAR 3

Supports BOTH DXi and VSTi (with the VST adapter)
Also provides rewire support, so you can re-wire FL Studio in as a plug in. Damn intuitive interface, supports ASIO as well.

ASIO 4 all is a pretty good driver, considering the price.

Hi there.

I just wanted to add that, You should get a production friend. What I mean is You could try hooking up with someone that already knows the software you will be using, and than watch him make some tunes. I think that's the best way, works for a lot of people. Cause in very short time you'll can see how to perform the basic, and probably the most important things to get you started, plus he can answer any question for you and show you right there. It's really good to see stuff in front of you, tutorial videos are good for that as well.

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Originally posted by Pimp_fu Cakewalk SONAR 3 Supports BOTH DXi and VSTi (with the VST adapter) Also provides rewire support, so you can re-wire FL Studio in as a plug in. Damn intuitive interface, supports ASIO as well.

Again, too technical. We want to help this guy not confuse him.

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Top 5:
1.Yahel Feat. A-Force - Behind Silence
2.Phynn - Lucid
3.Fred Baker Vs. Keyboards Kids - All Of Us (Fred Baker Mix)
4.Perry O'Neil - Wave Force (Özgür Can Vs. Yilmaz Remix)
5.Evolve - Safe To Dream (Thrillseekers Remix)

Old favourites:
Marco Bailey & Redhead - Watch Out
Matt Darey Presents Li Kwan - Point Zero 2004
Fictivision Vs. C-Quence - Symbols (Original Mix)

what u need is a program that lets u do approximately what u want, and that isnt difficult to learn.. but more creative than Magik or E-Jay..

basically u just need to get a program and start messing around, I would simply recommend u 2 get one of these:

Reason
FL Studio
Orion Platinum
Arturia Storm
Cakewalk Project 5

as for the soundcard, a demo version of Cubase or something will let u get your hands on a couple of ASIO drivers, which are pretty good

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Subtle
what u need is a program that lets u do approximately what u want, and that isnt difficult to learn.. but more creative than Magik or E-Jay..

basically u just need to get a program and start messing around, I would simply recommend u 2 get one of these:

Reason
FL Studio
Orion Platinum
Arturia Storm
Cakewalk Project 5

as for the soundcard, a demo version of Cubase or something will let u get your hands on a couple of ASIO drivers, which are pretty good [/QUOTE

Exactly. Althogh I wouldn't recommend Arturia Storm.

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Top 5:
1.Yahel Feat. A-Force - Behind Silence
2.Phynn - Lucid
3.Fred Baker Vs. Keyboards Kids - All Of Us (Fred Baker Mix)
4.Perry O'Neil - Wave Force (Özgür Can Vs. Yilmaz Remix)
5.Evolve - Safe To Dream (Thrillseekers Remix)

Old favourites:
Marco Bailey & Redhead - Watch Out
Matt Darey Presents Li Kwan - Point Zero 2004
Fictivision Vs. C-Quence - Symbols (Original Mix)