Allright, so I went to polls from my local news station ( WSVN 7 News ) yes.. Miami florida.. hehe.. Kerry was leading with an 80%, and the poll on CNN shows Kerry with a 79-78% lead.. on terms of who won the debate.

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Kerry was the clear victor from what I read. Bush really struggled to answer the challenge of his ineffective anti-nuclear proliferation policy, and ended up looking like the one who was sending "mixed messages" more than Kerry.

He also tripped up badly by repeatedly failing to recognize the distinction between Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden.

It's back to the drawing board for the Bush campaign. I expect them to be better prepared for the next debate - at times it seemed like Bush didn't know how to respond and we all know how bad he is at coming up with an answer on the spot.

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Originally posted by Arbiter Kerry was the clear victor from what I read. Bush really struggled to answer the challenge of his ineffective anti-nuclear proliferation policy, and ended up looking like the one who was sending "mixed messages" more than Kerry. He also tripped up badly by repeatedly failing to recognize the distinction between Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden. It's back to the drawing board for the Bush campaign. I expect them to be better prepared for the next debate - at times it seemed like Bush didn't know how to respond and we all know how bad he is at coming up with an answer on the spot.

Did you read a transcript? Did it say something like

Bush: [pause 5 seconds] "um" [pause 2 seconds] "well" [pause 5 seconds]

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Originally posted by xKaoSx Did you read a transcript? Did it say something like Bush: [pause 5 seconds] "um" [pause 2 seconds] "well" [pause 5 seconds]

Unfortunately it wasn't that good. I could still get a general impression of when the candidates were struggling, but I'll have to actually watch it when I get a chance.

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Originally posted by Arbiter Unfortunately it wasn't that good. I could still get a general impression of when the candidates were struggling, but I'll have to actually watch it when I get a chance.

It was pretty painful to watch bush actually. Especially when Kerry was talking and his reactions.

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Kerry had a couple chances to seal the deal and failed. I still think he was better. Didnt look as nervous or jumpy as Bush.

I listened to the debate on the radio this morning.. Bored me to the core.
I didnt listen to the whole thing, but the only topics that i heard being debated was the whole Iraq/war on terror bullshit. Usually domestic interest get some sort of attention. I mean, health and education are still fairly important, true?

As for a winner, bush made me laugh at his stupidy, but kerry didnt do much better to impress me. Who's the better debater though? Kerry, by a long shot. Kinda tells you something about bush though

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Originally posted by Dupz I didnt listen to the whole thing, but the only topics that i heard being debated was the whole Iraq/war on terror bullshit. Usually domestic interest get some sort of attention. I mean, health and education are still fairly important, true?

There are three debates, and this was the first. The topic was foreign policy and homeland security. Other issues will be covered in the next two debates. They should be less boring for you.

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Originally posted by Arbiter There are three debates, and this was the first. The topic was foreign policy and homeland security. Other issues will be covered in the next two debates. They should be less boring for you.

ah! fantastic! Well that makes a little bit more sense then.

That's probably a good idea that we should follow then. Have a few debates (rather than just one) and set topics for each. Finally, something clever coming out of the US (joking )

It seems from this discussion as though Kerry was the intellectual winner on the debate, but how about the popular appeal? Did he come off as an arrogant person? An aristocrat? A smart Alec?
Gore was also Bush intellectual superior, but he lost the election because of it being a popularity contest. I hope the same fate does not befall Kerry.

i enjoyed it thouroughly.

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Originally posted by BadBadNeil Convincing wise I think Bush spoke more from the heart and Kerry talked more about what he thought America wanted to hear. In the end I think Kerry had more answers than Bush did.

I think Bush was saying what he has been saying all along..

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