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Originally posted by lMIlk kinda off topic but, if terroists in a hostage situation actually get the money, how do they get away without being arrested?

what, U think of getting in this "job"? they usually ask for helicopters or they take hostages and free them when they think they are safe.

yeah, USA has a lot of pride. and more and more ppl begin to hate them as acting like the best fukin' country in the world. this just prooves how weak they are... and I am SURE that Osama Bin Laden has a backup something... he wouldn't have messed with the americans for nothing, especially knowing they will fight back.
this is my biggest fear!

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Originally posted by hypronix what, U think of getting in this "job"?

i think i'll pass...

hrmm..in my opinion, americans do tend to be arrogant some times, but how in gods name can you call americans arrogant and throw this on 'americans' (which by the way is a gross generalization) when to me, europians are JUST as arrogant. now, im not trying to piss anybody off, its just true though, you see im not patriotic at all, so i can say this because i tend to not really care about what happens to my bloody country or wherever im from, it dosnt matter to me, its just another label. but when it all comes down, its just one commune of of humans directly affecting another group. who cares if the other group is larger, or if they get payed more? you shouldnt, but you do, because most people are always bickering and whining over such nonsense, if you cant change it then why try? why cant everybody just accept that lifes unfair and its time to stop crying over spilt milk. no im not a pessimist i just try to see things in a realistic way. also, whenever the us charges into any country, they always kill more people than stated, like when the us came down here to stop the dictator noriega, they killed hundres of innocent people, they were bombing buildings and airports for christs sake, i mean what did they think was going to happen? some panamanians were going to come out and throw banana's at them? .. riiiiiight. the us does usually act a little to brutal. but hey thats life. and if a plane crashed into an airport in holland or paris or wherever and killed like a couple thousand dutch or swedish peep's , i dont think you would be saying all the things you guys have said. but enough of my ranting and ravings. just my opinion, plz take this all constructively.

take care all,
peace.
- ftnb

I think America should stop the terror she's doing (or has been doing in the world) . When the towers collapsed and thousands of people died , the whole world was mobilised with America , supporting her and offering her some help .

But what about the hundred thousands of Irakian kids who died because of the American embargo ? Why the hell is America restricting Irak from getting food and medecines ? U want to punish Saddam ? Then punish Saddam , but don't punish the KIDS (i'm talking about the kids only , what about the adults ???) Isn't that sick to leave kids dying without food nor medecine ??? where the hell are the other countries ??? why can't they say a word about that ??? but when it comes to America everybody mobilizes himself (i'm not saying they shouldn't , but they should also help the others)

Today America bombed Afghanistan , did u see Bin Laden's reaction ? he said that even if he dies they will always be someone else to keep on fighting against America and as long as he is alive he will keep on doing terrorists attacks too ... do u think bombing is the best way to solve the problem ? i don't think so ... Anyways that was just my two cents .

Ps : some of u think i support the terrorists , which is totally false and wrong . For these retards i'm saying : shove something up your ass and go to hell

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yeah...i mostly agree with the ppl. here...its totally true that america's foreign policy needs...what shall we say..sum 'tweaking'...hehehh...but think about it this way...would america still have kept the sanctions on iraq in place had saddam hussein given up power, not killed so many members of the other muslim sect residing in his country, and pledged not to develop chemical/bio weapons? he knows his country is no match against america, yet he would not allow the UN weapons inspectors to perform their jobs effectively...

in any case, the bottom line is that the human race is pretty fucked up. ultimately its just human beings killing human beings...what is a "nation" anyway? a group of ppl. living together within mutually accepted borders, hopefully governed by a government of their choice...lets say we have an ordinary citizen of country X with a family of 4 suffering due to the trade embargo against his country...flash forward sum 5 yrs, and lets say he's moved to the US and now he has a nice job and his family is safe...and then america goes to war against sum country, XYZ...even that citizen of country X who 5 yrs. ago probably denounced the US because of its anti-country- X stance will now support its sanctions against country XYZ...sum fraction of his taxes will probably go towards augmenting america's defenses...maybe to build more bombs to drop on other countries, maybe even country X itself..

so human beings in general are just...fucked up...money is all that matters...and all of us, whether or not we know it, are in sum way responsible for what happens...

peace

OMG!!!.... U guys who say bombing them is wrong.... that dont live in American shouldnt be talking..... u can have this smart coments about how u think..but u dont know shit unless it happened to your country........ its pretty to say that fighting back will not help things out and or anything...well the fact is if we left this shit stand it will happen again...for instance ... as a boy getting picked on everyday at school and ignoring it will still get picked on....or the person that is always nice to everyone will get walked all over on.....well this is what US is under ....we wont get walked over on by these Terrorists and by these countries who harbor them.... i dont give a shit what they say ....... i believe we been to fucking pussy before and we should of done something a lot earlier........ and people say innocent people will get killed cuz of what is going to happen..well dont blame the US ..blame there country.....they put them into a situation like this...not us..... and everyone saying how arrogant the us and thinks we are the best...well im not saying we do but we have way more responsoblity then any other country out there....... if it wasnt for the us many countries wouldnt be as secure as they are now...even many of european countries who think that its just themselfs support them..... US produces 75% of the worlds food...we feed the world with what we do.... the US is a country that if it wasnt in power.....the world would be very different..more people would starve and more people would die from the fact..... there is no country that could feed china as we do even though our relations arnt as strong with them...if it wasnt for us so many people would starve in the country..... we gave 300 million dollars to afganistanian refugees who fucking hate us ..and are taliban....and we have no obligation to feed them cuz we havent done shit to there country when we feed them weeks ago.... I personaly would of told them fuck them i wouldnt give them money ..but we still do even though many are taliban supporters and bin ladin supporters....what other fucking country would do that shit...... GOD DAMN it some of your view just piss the fuck out of me...BLAME US BLAME US FOR EVERYTHING ..... pisses me off.... people wear our cloths , watch our movies, love the way of life we have ...but everyone just loves to fucking blame the US...for what we do...well like i said no country out there has the responisbility that our counrty as ...until any country has those same responsiblites of the world like us ..... u cant really say anytihng about why we do things..... and for people say a attack on US is attack on every western country..thats the truth...cuz with out the US .... the way of life would be much different.... ... ok i going to stop before i get furious i had to state something ....its finished now ..cuz this topic makes me MAD and FURIOUS!!! heheheh anyway Any good new Trance songs out there :::changeing the subject::::

yeah, and without question, this bombing is the right thing to do. the strikes weren't only in retaliation for the wtc disaster, it was simply the straw that broke the camel's back; there were other events in the past that were more or less ignored, such as the wtc bombing in 1993, the bombing of the uss cole and the bombing of u.s. embassies outside of the united states, all of which were linked to osama bitch laden and his terrorist group 'el quesadilla' or whatever. the u.s. HAS been too pussy in its reaction to terrorist activity in recent years, and it's about time that some serious military action was taken.

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Originally posted by TranceCluber OMG!!!.... U guys who say bombing them is wrong.... that dont live in American shouldnt be talking..... u can have this smart coments about how u think..but u dont know shit unless it happened to your country........ its pretty to say that fighting back will not help things out and or anything...well the fact is if we left this shit stand it will happen again...for instance ... as a boy getting picked on everyday at school and ignoring it will still get picked on....or the person that is always nice to everyone will get walked all over on.....well this is what US is under ....we wont get walked over on by these Terrorists and by these countries who harbor them.... i dont give a shit what they say ....... i believe we been to fucking pussy before and we should of done something a lot earlier........ and people say innocent people will get killed cuz of what is going to happen..well dont blame the US ..blame there country.....they put them into a situation like this...not us..... and everyone saying how arrogant the us and thinks we are the best...well im not saying we do but we have way more responsoblity then any other country out there....... if it wasnt for the us many countries wouldnt be as secure as they are now...even many of european countries who think that its just themselfs support them..... US produces 75% of the worlds food...we feed the world with what we do.... the US is a country that if it wasnt in power.....the world would be very different..more people would starve and more people would die from the fact..... there is no country that could feed china as we do even though our relations arnt as strong with them...if it wasnt for us so many people would starve in the country..... we gave 300 million dollars to afganistanian refugees who fucking hate us ..and are taliban....and we have no obligation to feed them cuz we havent done shit to there country when we feed them weeks ago.... I personaly would of told them fuck them i wouldnt give them money ..but we still do even though many are taliban supporters and bin ladin supporters....what other fucking country would do that shit...... GOD DAMN it some of your view just piss the fuck out of me...BLAME US BLAME US FOR EVERYTHING ..... pisses me off.... people wear our cloths , watch our movies, love the way of life we have ...but everyone just loves to fucking blame the US...for what we do...well like i said no country out there has the responisbility that our counrty as ...until any country has those same responsiblites of the world like us ..... u cant really say anytihng about why we do things..... and for people say a attack on US is attack on every western country..thats the truth...cuz with out the US .... the way of life would be much different.... ... ok i going to stop before i get furious i had to state something ....its finished now ..cuz this topic makes me MAD and FURIOUS!!! heheheh anyway Any good new Trance songs out there :::changeing the subject::::

Well said

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Originally posted by TranceFusion ALL I HAVE TO SAY IS ITS ABOUT TIME! WE GAVE THEM TO LONG TO TURN OVER LADEN AND NOW THEY PAY!!!

Well said TranceFusion


Its allways funny to see those against the boming of Bin laden and his friends, all of you aren't from the US, If this happened in your back door you would be doing the same to Bin Laden, infact the US would most likey help you country now wouldn't they?

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No comment about tranceclubers post, just one remark. I can understand that the USA has something to do against them, as even our country will do st when it happened here. But take for example Sweden, they have done shit to make these terrorists angry, the US has. And its also clear, that most americans are with george bush, but...yeah forget about it.

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Originally posted by cweb No comment about tranceclubers post, just one remark. I can understand that the USA has something to do against them, as even our country will do st when it happened here. But take for example Sweden, they have done shit to make these terrorists angry, the US has. And its also clear, that most americans are with george bush, but...yeah forget about it.

I agree....it's very useless to try to get your point across because ur talking to americans ey?

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miss proximus, sadly you are correct..and i dont want trancecluber to say shit about you dont know how it is if youre not an american because you wrote somewhere out in las vegas fukin 3000 miles away from new york city meanwhile i live IN new york city, not around it and not in a neighboring state...i feel bad for americans, yes i feel bad for their amazingly high levels of ignorance..im not even in the mood to respond to trancecluber maybe later ot tomorrow

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