At places like Guv they have something called PARTIES. If everyone there was listening intently to the music and critiquing every transition from track to track, how boring would that be? People like to get all self-righteous and say: "Oh I don't do drugs, I go there for the music!". It's not only about the music!

Personally I listen to EDM 24/7 when I'm not out. That's when I will listen closely and learn new tracks, shit like that. When you hit up a party, there's other stuff to do other than trying to write up a setlist.

Most of us have been to the few EDM clubs in T.O. tons of times and if you're on this forum, then most likely you've heard alot of those tunes before. So it's not like some big 'experience' that you're missing out on if you're fucked up. If I were to go to one of the huge parties in Europe like Trance Energy or something that's when I would stay sober.

Its all about the music...

or it should be. Drugs should be the after thought and not the reason for going. If it is, stay home and do them. There is a big difference being at a party where the vibe is coming from the music and not from the drugs (although the drugs can enhance that vibe, no arguement there).

The problem is when people go for drugs who dont really like the music or care. Thats when u get the sketchers that stand there all night or g out in a corner.

Not doing pills is a personal choice i made years ago only because i knew that id need them to party all time after that and the health effects arent good. I dont find anything morally wrong with drugs as i dont with alcohol. Of course both are subject to being abused but so is just about anything else that makes us feel good.

My point is that at a party the music and kinship with fellow partygoers should come well before any substance as a matter of importance.

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Originally posted by jdjd Most of us have been to the few EDM clubs in T.O. tons of times and if you're on this forum, then most likely you've heard alot of those tunes before.

Where?

The only time i hear any good music these days is either internet radio or at a club

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Originally posted by Jayx1 Where? The only time i hear any good music these days is either internet radio or at a club

Yea internet

i guess the internet is ruining EDM then. If people dont care because they have already downloaded it then thats sad.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 i guess the internet is ruining EDM then. If people dont care because they have already downloaded it then thats sad.

Not really. If anything, the internet is promoting EDM, by giving real fans the opportunity to hear what a DJ is spinning before going to a live event, thereby allowing them to make informed desicions whether or not they will enjoy their set or not.

I'd rather hear a DJ's set in the comfort of my room, and decide if i'm feeling his set and then go out and experience it on a large system as it was intended to be heard, and share the experience with a thousand other people where the genuine feel of a party is created rather then go there, expecting to hear trance...and instead find the guy spinning techno.

Knowledgable crowds always seem to be the best one's in my experience, because they go to an event, already hyped up, expecting the DJ to drop atleast some familiar tunes...rather then some of the n00bs i've heard who went to hear sasha and then said something clever like -- "Dude, i've heard that sasha chick is really hot, i hope she plays that ubercool remix of the vengaboys ! "

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i agree...

The internet does allow for more informed partiers however:

Downloading has directly caused a number of smaller dance labels to go under because there are a lot of download djs now who previously bought vinyl. To say that this hasnt impacted the dance music scene is naive at best.

Downloading is only good for promotion if you have the money on the outside to spend on promoting the download or else no one knows to search for a particular artist.

As for informed crowds. hanging on mixes is amazing because there is a lot that many djs do that is so spot on that people think its part of the song already. Informed crowds would realize exactly what the DJ is doing to that tune. James Zabiela comes to mind. I dont think half the people out there knew what he was doing to the tunes. Mark Oliver also does a lot of on the fly remixes that people think are actually part of the song.

No matter what, drugs, booze, and a night out go hand in hand throughout history. For everyone it is a differnt mix, and the importance of the music associated with the party is different for everyone as well.

Guv is a perfect example of this. Cheap normal covercharge there, and it's essentially a top-40 crowd, staying because it's open till the a m . Sure there are a ton of hardcore edm fans there to enjoy a MO set, but there are tons of ppl there just to get fucked up.. not because it's EDM, but because it's Saturday night and hey want to get fucked up.

Raving is now fully integrated into the clubbing culture, for better or worse.

The cliche's are unbearable.. like that dumb girl in the Peter Jenning's E Report.. *shudder*

btw: it's not all about the music. it's about the money, the power and the ladies

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Last edited by rabbitjoker on Oct-12-2004 at 18:49

^^^ maybe if you are a gino LOL

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Originally posted by Jayx1 ^^^ maybe if you are a gino LOL

Or Tony Montana.

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Originally posted by rabbitjoker /me thinks the thread starter was mad buggered whilst writing the first post...

think what you want jackass!!!!!!!!!

wow I have encountered my first TA PRICK!

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