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ESMdjm600
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P:T:X
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quote:
Originally posted by amdmaxx
Future of DJing = DVD-Audio and Super-Audio CDs...


100% agree with this. DVD-Audio and Super-Audio CDs offer much superior sound quality. Each synth line and SFX would be crystal clear on a high end sound system. Add to this DTS or Dolby Digital high fidelity surround sound and you are in ecstacy...

I have always wondered how listening to trance in surround sound would be? Imagine all the crystal clear sound effects coming in from different directions coupled with spectacular light and laser show in a night club.


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Old Post Oct-27-2004 01:04  United States
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T-Soma
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quote:
Originally posted by P:T:X

I have always wondered how listening to trance in surround sound would be? Imagine all the crystal clear sound effects coming in from different directions coupled with spectacular light and laser show in a night club.


Wow would be trippin


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Freak
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dvd a/sacd etc still doesnt sound as good as vinyl... Argue all you like- thats a technical fact.

You mention surround sound:
99.9% of club systems are run in mono........ so that kind of pisses on that idea

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Rememberence_
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yeah provided the vinyl is clean and you are using a good pickup + stylus.


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Freak
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no not at all

Even with the most basic/cheapest stylus, music from a vinyl source is being produced via a pure unbroken waveform.
It is also not restricted by sample or bit rate- it is not partitioned at all, and has an infinitely wide frequency and transient range.
Neither of these are affected by the stylus or how clean the record is.

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D Dubya
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quote:
Originally posted by Freak
no not at all

Even with the most basic/cheapest stylus, music from a vinyl source is being produced via a pure unbroken waveform.
It is also not restricted by sample or bit rate- it is not partitioned at all, and has an infinitely wide frequency and transient range.
Neither of these are affected by the stylus or how clean the record is.


Yea, but don't forget.... most edm is created through digital sources of samples. these have already undergone sample rate changes and so forth. in essence, an electronic vinyl is probably at the same rate as any digital media because it is the exact same thing. It comes from a computer.


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starlabs
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Originally posted by Dirk W.
Yea, but don't forget.... most edm is created through digital sources of samples. these have already undergone sample rate changes and so forth. in essence, an electronic vinyl is probably at the same rate as any digital media because it is the exact same thing. It comes from a computer.


Well said.. now if vinyl were playing back say, classical music using a varied range of musical instruments, then that wider range would make quite the difference.


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Nic
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quote:
Originally posted by Freak
no not at all

Even with the most basic/cheapest stylus, music from a vinyl source is being produced via a pure unbroken waveform.
It is also not restricted by sample or bit rate- it is not partitioned at all, and has an infinitely wide frequency and transient range.
Neither of these are affected by the stylus or how clean the record is.


even though the record may have a pure unbroken waveform a cheap stylus wont follow it exactly, digital music can easily follow the waveform more accurately than a cheap stylus. Generally records are restricted by sample and bitrates because nowdays almost all music is recorded digitally anyway (i cant remember what the studio standard is off the top of my head, can anyone else?), and records dont have an infinitely wide frequency range, physics just dosent allow this

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Freak
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quote:
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i cant remember what the studio standard is off the top of my head, can anyone else?


44.1kHz, or 48kHz
(yes i have a degree in this gubbins- i know what im on about)

Old Post Oct-28-2004 15:47  United States
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Nic
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havent they started recording new stuff at something like 96khz

i'm still working on my degree

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Scottaculous
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Registered: Mar 2001
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quote:
Originally posted by Freak
44.1kHz, or 48kHz
(yes i have a degree in this gubbins- i know what im on about)


It's been 48 for a few years now. A lot of the mixers like Mackie's d8b only went up to 48 but now with the new mixing boards, at 96 and even 192, that number will soon change.

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