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| quote: | Originally posted by djbruuen
hahaha...i couldn't help laughing at some of the responses i've seen. i didn't fully go into extensive detail, and of course there are exceptions.
1st thing, i will agree with the post where it says if you look past green day, good charlette etcetc. there is more complex stuff. But "complex" is such an illusive word. Seriously, No Mainstream Music Is Complex!!!! I've been a piano player for 15 years. in that time i've played every form of classical music, been part of 5 rock bands (from hard rock to alternative) and even done jazz...i've composed emotional film scores (which credible ppl have commented they are worthy of being in a movie) and of course EDM, where i've created ambient, house, trance, and my own crossbreading of genres.
so i think i could consider myself to have some experience.
and like i said b4...no music is complex!!! anything the musician plays is in context with the key they're playing in. Even smooth jazz for example. i have great respect for the piano players that make this music. to the listening ear it sounds like WHOLEY SHIT that guys is fuckin crazy, how does he do that. but seriously, with practice and knowing the key signature and chord switches etc. i could go to the piano and make my own interpretation which would sound just as good (not anyone could, but remember i have 15yrs of piano experience, so i'm not undermining music, it still takes talent to make it to this type of level)
my point with that is trying to say one music is more complex then the other. my biggest and always will be biggest pet peeve. because as a musician i know it isn't, its just 'perceived' that way. i used to play a classical piece from rachmaninoff - prelude in c# minor. i dont' know if anyone is familiar with it, very popular piano piece, and fuck does it sound complicated...but thats only because its played super fast, because then chord structure is still just simple chords.
As mike_b said, EDM and Rock have different intents...dance makes you 'dance,' rock makes you 'rock,' (sorry that sounded kinda lamn...but jump up and down and mosh etc.) so the musicians goals are different.
system-j...i suggest you read what i stated above of the complexity of music. Songs can create the Illusion of being complex...but adding in a harmonizing string pattern and a guitar solo does not classify complexity. btw. gnr - welcome to the jungle wasn't really the style i was going for in that comparison...i meant more modern stuff such as ...um slipknot, deftones (with exceptions where sometimes they lean into a more mainstream influence), slayer...or anything along those lines really...just hard power chords that sound dark and dingy...i would put welcome to the jungle in the alternative category if anything.
anyways, b4 i finish my damn thesis on this topic because i just keep going on and on 
these comparisons are not set in stone wholey shit now that you mention it punk and house sound exactly the same!!! of course not, its just meant to look at comparative traits...and i'll admit i may have some biasis, becuase i don't particularily like heavy metal and punk (although i come from these backgrounds, so b4 you use that to bash on me, i have experienced these music forms in my earlier days through my rock band era.)
also i appreciate the controversy on this subject. because its not like i'm right and thats it, ppl can definately have their own views on this, and its good to see ppl agreeing and disagreeing with my comments...and now after this post, i welcome any other debate.
like in my first post...pls state any additional music comparisions you can find. |
djbuuren proves to be very intellingent. I agree...
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
This coming from he who first heard Leftfield about a week ago. I listen to all forms of EDM, probably more than you. You're just a fucking newb Cinos, I remember when you didn't recognise the melody to Children by Robert Miles, you think Chicane' album is the rarest EDM purchase on the planet and you legendarily made an arse of yourself by not "getting" The Prodigy, before trying to pass yourself off as ironic. Don't tell me I need to "delve further into EDM than epic trance". I'd go back to masturbating over Sphongle and keep thinking it's the pinnacle of all music, before considering the hypocrisy of your comment. |
While SYSTEM-J is living proof of what tropicana does to people. Having a hard time understanding that the past is long gone? Aggressivity problems?
Now let me counter your statements: I recognized the melody to Children, just didn't know the artist. Chicanes album is the rarest thing I (not you) have ever bought, and the prodigy thread was a joke to see how easy people go full-out flaming MAD here.
And yes, I now agree. You shouldn't try to discover more of EDM. You wouldn't understand it anyway.
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TranceCritic ftw!
Last edited by DJ Cinos on Oct-25-2004 at 06:06
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