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Originally posted by StereoPrincess So the real question was... ...IS mp3 support on a CDJ worthless?

It's not worthless but think about the cataloging nightmare it presents. Take a standard 700MB CD. That's 5,600,000,000 bits, divided by 320,000 bits per second. Which makes it approximately 4.86 hours of music. That's a lot of mp3 singles. How a person can go through the CD looking for the right track is beyond me.

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Originally posted by StereoPrincess but this can be minimized if you know what you are fucking doing on the decks and with the mixer.

sorry, no it can't

no matter how much you know what you are doing with your decks/mixer, there is no way at all to change the way the original sound sounds, unless its with a sound processor (seperate from a deck/mixer, and even seperate from the DJ most of the time) and this would not make a CD sound like a vinyl in any way, shape, or form.

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So the real question was... ...IS mp3 support on a CDJ worthless?

i wouldn't call it worthless, if the tune is good enough who really gives a shit? so long as you arn't playing a poorly encoded mp3 that will sound like utter crap, and the DJ doesn't swap it about too much i don't see that it matters that much. it also opens things up a bit with regards to how much you can fit on your cd's. for example, for bedroom dj's it is much more cost effective to have 50 mp3's on 1 cd than it is having 10 tracks in cd audio.

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In a club environment yes. MP3 support on a CDJ is moot. Everyone who seems to have a REAL idea about club systems, and or sound engineering will tell you EVERY TIME that mp3 and clubs don't mix.

In a bedroom dj setup, where the DJ wants to rip off artists by burning mp3s. It would be fine.

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Originally posted by Scottaculous It's not worthless but think about the cataloging nightmare it presents. Take a standard 700MB CD. That's 5,600,000,000 bits, divided by 320,000 bits per second. Which makes it approximately 4.86 hours of music. That's a lot of mp3 singles. How a person can go through the CD looking for the right track is beyond me.

You number your discs and carry around a lookup sheet or something which has all the tracks alphabetized and the corresponding disc number.

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Originally posted by failsafe In a bedroom dj setup, where the DJ wants to rip off artists by burning mp3s. It would be fine.

you can buy mp3's nowadays.

or you can even *shock horror* rip your own vinyl if you can't be arsed carrying it all about.

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Originally posted by Cheetah86 You number your discs and carry around a lookup sheet or something which has all the tracks alphabetized and the corresponding disc number.

I use to do that. I got too lazy to keep my lists up to date. And then I lost my list. Now I just write the names of the tracks on the CD.

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Originally posted by failsafe In a bedroom dj setup, where the DJ wants to rip off artists by burning mp3s. It would be fine.

you really really need to get off this idea.

DJs that play mp3s aren't ripping artists off. fuck. i mean there are some retards that would play downloaded mp3s but morally speaking i don't know of anyone that would dare to do that.

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Originally posted by StereoPrincess you really really need to get off this idea. DJs that play mp3s aren't ripping artists off. fuck. i mean there are some retards that would play downloaded mp3s but morally speaking i don't know of anyone that would dare to do that.

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Originally posted by Scottaculous I use to do that. I got too lazy to keep my lists up to date. And then I lost my list. Now I just write the names of the tracks on the CD.

This is where MP3 support on CD units comes in handy. The ones that I know with MP3 support also support ID tags, thus the name/track/mix of the song appears on the display.

Also - they generally have "search" ability to find the MP3 one is looking for on the CD.

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Originally posted by Dirk W. Electronic music is just that.... electronic. Created (mostly) on digital platforms (ie: computer) and then moved over to vinyl. Put some logic into it.

don't be a party pooper, let the vinyl heads think that vinyl is "massively" superior and "obviously" better, when they are the only ones who can tell the "difference".

it's not so much logic that is driving this argument that it is emotions. cd dj's are going to say they don't notice a difference because they don't want to have to switch mediums just to get a little better quality. and vinyl dj's are going to say they DO notice a difference because they need more than just "i like the feel of vinyl" to rationalize spending thousands more on music than their cd dj counterparts.

it should be a personal choice. if you feel your mp3's or wav's are suitable in the club and doesn't take away from your set, then do it, but if you think it sounds like crap, then stick to what you think sounds good. i dont see the point of back and forth arguing to solve this.

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This all goes back to what I was saying earlier. MP3's in clubs don't work. So yep, if you want to buy an mp3 off whatever your fav site is and play it on your dns-5000 at home. Have at 'er to your hearts content.

Saying rip your own vinyl to mp3? Why on gods green earth would you want to do that? Why not rip to AIFF or WAV file so you don't have such tremendous sound quality losses.

As far as ID3 tags go. Every dj I've seen play on cd decks has their CDs labeled in marker. I imagine that might work for you too. I suggest sharpie markers (in black). I suppose this wouldn't work if you've got a hundred mp3's on a cd. This is why 1 track = 1 cd seems to work for most people.

and if you want to play with acapellas or something, a mp3 cd is very useful