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rubyriva
still in it



Registered: Apr 2001
Location: hudson valley, ny

quote:
Originally posted by tecnolover
Just want to say to all liberals in here and everywhere in USA that I sincerely hope we will all try to get along after this. On this issue I agree with Mr. Kerry whole-heartedly. I am also glad that Mr. Kerry conceded like a gentleman and didn't turn this into an ugly series of court battles. I respect and admire him for this. Yes, this was a rough election and yes there is a religious split here in the USA but we are all family and one nation. I hope that we all can shake hands like good sportsmen and continue to be friends and work together, support our re-elected president and support our fellow citizens who are fighting abroad. We are the strongest nation on earth and perhaps only we can destroy ourselves. Peace.


do you think that bush would have done the same for kerry if the roles had been reversed?

something tells me that there would have been a very ugly, 11 day battle with bush as the victor.


and if you look at history, the romans, the greatest empire ever, destroyed themselves. let's not repeat history and make the same mistakes.


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Fir3start3r
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Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Toronto, ON, Canada

quote:
Originally posted by Arbiter
It's inherent to the nature of "free"-dom. If you are free of something, that means you do not have it or are unaffected by it. To be free is to be unencumbered. Freedom can not be an entitlement or a right, for it truly is nothing more than a state of independence from some particular controlling influence.

I would have thought that those who believe in small government and laissez-faire economics would understand most easily what genuine freedom is.


Yes, but with freedom comes responsibility from chaos.
True freedom is chaos and it takes a responsible, civil civilian (double-talk?) to choose what is morally right and wrong.
This is why the world held it's breath during the elections.
Now that we know where the pieces lie, the next progressive step can be taken.
Lets just hope the dance doesn't stop altogether...


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policerobots
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Location: Irvine, CA

the moment i read the first few lines i knew a whole napalm trail of flaming would ensue.

Old Post Nov-04-2004 02:28  United States
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St_Andrew
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Registered: May 2003
Location: Stockholm, Sweden

america has spoken to the world... i wouldnt be proud of what you said tho

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NiteKiD
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Registered: Jul 2002
Location: houston TX
Re: -U.S.A. Has Spoken To The World!--

quote:
Originally posted by tecnolover
It's a great day for America.
America has spoken!!

What did America just say to the world today?

They said that they support a strong leader and a man of spiritual strength, who believes in God and has strong morals and ethics. That is exactly what America said and it must be quite painful in the ears of all the unbelieving liberals.

This is a victory for all of the faithful christians of america.

It's intersting that more young people came out to vote for Bush than did Kerry in the end because they stood up for their moral christian beliefs. The liberal youth of america stayed home and played Xbox. I guess the lib celebs like the rappers and the Springsteens didn't mean much or maybe it's that they decided to vote Bush instead because of their moral conscience? hmmm...

What does all of this mean now? It means Bush is not only the strongest leader since FDR IMO but quite possibly the most powerful U.S. president in generations. Strong Republican domination of Senate, House and soon presidential appointments to the judiciary branch. This is indeed a great day for conservative america! Don't get me wrong now, I support a balance of power with checks and balances but it has been sickening in recent times how this partisan gridlock has hindered the advancement and betterment of our nation. Bush has enough power now to accomplish most anything he has planned. If Bush wants to add an ammendment to the constitution to ban gay marriage he now has the power to do that and many other things.

What the world saw with this election is that there is indeed a division in the USA, but that division is the division religious belief in america. This is the fact. This was a battle between faithful christian america and unfaithful or non-christian america and if you don't believe this you are just plain ignorant or in denial. The opposition opposed Bush because of his beliefs and strong morals. I don't really think it was so much about Iraq honestly. I believe now that was mostly a liberal front. It could have been donald duck instead of Kerry and it would have made no difference. They voted to oppose Bush and everything christian that he represents. This is the other side of america. As much as liberal america would like everyone to believe, a moral christian america is still very much alive and strong.

God bless America.


Kiss my liberal ass choirboy.
Unlike you, many of us did actually make a decision which wasn't based on Bush's supposed beliefs or morals, but on actual issues. you don't think it was really about Iraq? we're at WAR, is it so freakin hard to believe some people may not actually agree with the war, or the way its being run?
What if i made this assumption: relgious conservatives dont really care about morals or issues, theyre just voting for their own bigoted satisfaction of seeing the hundred thousand iraqis being slaughetered halfway across the world?

and you talk about unity and shaking hands like good sportsmen after slandering the 50 million americans who decided to share a different view from you. It's so funny to see this religous nut preach morals as his rhetoric reaks of lies and ignorance

P.S Kerry won the majority of voters 18-29

Last edited by NiteKiD on Nov-04-2004 at 19:12

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kamil
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Registered: Apr 2004
Location: Toronto, Canada

The World will one day speak to the usa and say "FUCK YOU!!!"

we've had enough of bushie and past presidents playing "world sheriff" so fuck off all u republican zealots with ure almighty fucken empire. worry about ure own fucking country and how badly its being driven into the ground, and go thank ure past and future president for the deficit which you ****s elected.

Johnny Cash says:


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Erty
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America hasn't spoken, a very small majority of america has spoken.
That does not equal the whole country, dumbass.


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daffodil
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Location: brooklyn, usa
Re: -U.S.A. Has Spoken To The World!--

quote:
Originally posted by tecnolover
It's a great day for America.
America has spoken!!

What did America just say to the world today?

They said that they support a strong leader and a man of spiritual strength, who believes in God and has strong morals and ethics. That is exactly what America said and it must be quite painful in the ears of all the unbelieving liberals.

This is a victory for all of the faithful christians of america.

It's intersting that more young people came out to vote for Bush than did Kerry in the end because they stood up for their moral christian beliefs. The liberal youth of america stayed home and played Xbox. I guess the lib celebs like the rappers and the Springsteens didn't mean much or maybe it's that they decided to vote Bush instead because of their moral conscience? hmmm...

What does all of this mean now? It means Bush is not only the strongest leader since FDR IMO but quite possibly the most powerful U.S. president in generations. Strong Republican domination of Senate, House and soon presidential appointments to the judiciary branch. This is indeed a great day for conservative america! Don't get me wrong now, I support a balance of power with checks and balances but it has been sickening in recent times how this partisan gridlock has hindered the advancement and betterment of our nation. Bush has enough power now to accomplish most anything he has planned. If Bush wants to add an ammendment to the constitution to ban gay marriage he now has the power to do that and many other things.

What the world saw with this election is that there is indeed a division in the USA, but that division is the division religious belief in america. This is the fact. This was a battle between faithful christian america and unfaithful or non-christian america and if you don't believe this you are just plain ignorant or in denial. The opposition opposed Bush because of his beliefs and strong morals. I don't really think it was so much about Iraq honestly. I believe now that was mostly a liberal front. It could have been donald duck instead of Kerry and it would have made no difference. They voted to oppose Bush and everything christian that he represents. This is the other side of america. As much as liberal america would like everyone to believe, a moral christian america is still very much alive and strong.

God bless America.



in case you need a translation: http://www.whitehouse.org/news/2004/110304.asp

i'll draw the obvious parallels of the nazis and fascists having such popular support, certainly a majority. maybe a christian or religious mandate has been given. i suspected for a long time that bush was trying to bring this about. makes me that much more eager to get out of this country immediately.

i've done little other than feel sad all day. i don't know how else to feel when it's been proven that this country doesn't care about anyone's rights, privacies or freedoms. as a majority, we're as narrow-minded, paranoid, ignorant and brainwashed as everyone says we are.

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Vivid Boy
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Registered: Sep 2001
Location: T.O

quote:
Originally posted by rubyriva
do you think that bush would have done the same for kerry if the roles had been reversed?

something tells me that there would have been a very ugly, 11 day battle with bush as the victor.


and if you look at history, the romans, the greatest empire ever, destroyed themselves. let's not repeat history and make the same mistakes.


more then just the romans, also Russia and Britain. actually pretty much all great world powers destroy themselves and your doing it as we speak. Bin laden isnt a dumbass, He's giving u a war u cant win. Your going to keep fighting against something you cant beat and your going to war yourselves into a Huge defecit. And Bush doesnt care, Hes a businessman. As long as his company is doing well and making money, he couldnt give a shit. Ur going to bankrupt yourselves. The Days of the US as a huge world power are numbered

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kamil
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Registered: Apr 2004
Location: Toronto, Canada

quote:
Originally posted by Vivid Boy
more then just the romans, also Russia and Britain. actually pretty much all great world powers destroy themselves and your doing it as we speak. Bin laden isnt a dumbass, He's giving u a war u cant win. Your going to keep fighting against something you cant beat and your going to war yourselves into a Huge defecit. And Bush doesnt care, Hes a businessman. As long as his company is doing well and making money, he couldnt give a shit. Ur going to bankrupt yourselves. The Days of the US as a huge world power are numbered


i hope its not too long *cough*lessthan4years*cough* before americas "badass" empire falls......w00t w00t!!

Who do u think will take over? I say Canada, were good people ...GOOD PEOPLE.


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Vivid Boy
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Registered: Sep 2001
Location: T.O

quote:
Originally posted by kamil
i hope its not too long *cough*lessthan4years*cough* before americas "badass" empire falls......w00t w00t!!

Who do u think will take over? I say Canada, were good people ...GOOD PEOPLE.


if US falls our economy is shot. if that happens i might as well move to china.

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kamil
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Location: Toronto, Canada

quote:
Originally posted by Vivid Boy
if US falls our economy is shot. if that happens i might as well move to china.


canadian dollar has been going up while american has gone down...i dont know man, do we REALLY rely on those douches so much?


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