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[i][b] Guess its up to Europe to sort out the worlds mess...

hahahahah ur joking rite?

europe can't do anything without the u.s. look at history the last 150 years.

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Originally posted by NeoPhono It's a sad day for American democracy. The day after the highest number of voters in 40 years re-elected their president with both the popular vote and electoral college vote, democracy is on its last limb in the US. Its horrible to see such a large number of citizens make it their responsibility to go out and vote. Only in such a backwards and horrible nation like the US could so many make it their duty to voice their opinion at the polls. And to think that the results of the election weren't swayed in the least by the overwhelming number of nations that didn't like Bush really makes me question America's stance as an independent democracy. It's a sad day for American democracy.

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We went out and voted and Bush won. There is nothing un-democratic or wrong about that. In fact that's how a democracy works! If anything, I'm proud that this country decided to make its own decision instead of looking at the wishes of others to order its vote. This was an example of democracy in action, and anyone who says otherwise needs to re-examine their definiton of democracy.

Make up your mind NeoPhone. Pretty contradictory in these two posts and the last one contradicts even your original thread.

The fact that a record number of people voted meant a record number actually cared about the democratic process. Can hardly say democracy has failed in view of this fact. In fact, many stood in line for hours knowing their single vote wouldn't even matter, but it was the overriding pricipal which prevailed - the right to vote in a free society and chose your representatives and leaders. Democracy is still very alive and well in this country!


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FFS, and for the last time, he was being sarcastic in his first post. It's dripping wet with sarcasm. What the hell is wrong with people's perceptiveness...Or is it just you?

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Originally posted by Epicurus FFS, and for the last time, he was being sarcastic in his first post. It's dripping wet with sarcasm. What the hell is wrong with people's perceptiveness...Or is it just you?

i know i've been watching this for three days now

it's hysterical!

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Originally posted by Epicurus FFS, and for the last time, he was being sarcastic in his first post. It's dripping wet with sarcasm. What the hell is wrong with people's perceptiveness...Or is it just you?

heh, what do you excpect from smokeape?

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Originally posted by Epicurus FFS, and for the last time, he was being sarcastic in his first post. It's dripping wet with sarcasm. What the hell is wrong with people's perceptiveness...Or is it just you?

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heh, what do you excpect from smokeape?

Hey, he just surprised me with a half decent post right now:

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ShadoWolf, your two consecutive posts have no relation to each other. One talks about a dutchman murdered for speaking out about Islam and the other is about ethnic fighting in China where Muslims were involved. I'm sure the radical muslims in Holland weren't remotely related to the fighting in China involving an ethnic minority of Muslims. Based on these isolated incidents, you cannot make a general statement that Muslims in general are bad because they have communities elsewhere across the globe and murdering and fighting is not the norm. I suppose you haven't taken any logic courses in college.

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Originally posted by Epicurus Hey, he just surprised me with a half decent post right now:

Well you haven't surprised me with much intelligence yourself, just a lot of verbosity. Cut to the chase for a change, don't like reading boring paragraphs of tripe.


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At least I can recognize sarcasm when I see it

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Originally posted by Highlander hahahahah ur joking rite? europe can't do anything without the u.s. look at history the last 150 years.

I fail to see what history has to do with it? There was no EU during either of the wars and it only took its current form after the end of the Cold War. The EU is an economic superpower and has influence and the alternative ideology to America seems a very attractive way at looking at world affairs. We have the money, and we are developing the military side...so please explain why you think America (and their unilateralist religious fundamentalist and aggressive outlook) will have more sucess than the EU in resolving conflicts etc...???

wtf???


what the hell is a serious political discussion doing here






boy this is better than the days of old...

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