if i remember correctly... its a djm500 in the video, not a 600

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Originally posted by Nemesis44 Zabiela's style - This style is more discreet. 'Let's see if they notice this' sort of thing. Keep in mind that it still has to sound good. You still have to believe that the song was meant to be that way or think 'Wow, is this a new remix'. Refreshing and different from the usual DJ's and great entertainment. Again more of a DJ's DJ as most people (Average clubber) don't actually know what JZ is famous for, they will just think he is the same as Tiesto etc.

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See...i'm not saying Zabiela has no talent for what he does, I am basically saying you people shouldn't be calling it scratching...more like 'efxing' when you say scratching (i've never used a efx500) you mean fooling around with the efx500 unit and moving the jog wheel back and fourth - but thats not scratching!

Brilliant post there Nem. You summed it up perfectly.

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Originally posted by Luke Terry if i remember correctly... its a djm500 in the video, not a 600

if i remember correctly... there a black version of the djm600 also

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Originally posted by Ken_Allen +1 See...i'm not saying Zabiela has no talent for what he does, I am basically saying you people shouldn't be calling it scratching...more like 'efxing' when you say scratching (i've never used a efx500) you mean fooling around with the efx500 unit and moving the jog wheel back and fourth - but thats not scratching!

sorry, efxing is the dumbest fucking name I've ever heard.

It sounds like a scratch, so call it a scratch. Those of us here know what he's really doing, the rest of the people who don't probably don't care, and wouldn't understand if you tried to explain it to them.

I consider it a scratch anyways - it's manipulating the [jog wheel, record, whatever] in order to obtain that special sound. His trick just eliminates the need for the crossfader. If you watch the tricks video that comes with Alive, you'll see him doing it classic style tho with the fader, so whatever.

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its all gone a bit off topic.

However my intention was never to actually copy his style, allough i like his imaginative mixing,

like dj chex says, just mixing isnt enough.

I listen back to my sets, and think how bland they sound compared to Zabiela's sets(especially alive) and its not just zabiela, I used to like Halliwell's Bosh Cd's when i really loved trance, i just though his mixing added energy.

Thats what I want to achieve, I want the parts where I am activley mixing to be the parts people want to listen too. I want to include some imagination.


Just out of interest, can any one else comment on the behringer VMX 300's ability to accomodate an EFX500? (i listed why it may not be up to the part in the opening post)

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Originally posted by Nemesis44 Interesting debate... And here is my two euros worth Cheers Nem

well said.

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Originally posted by CraSHer[UK] Just out of interest, can any one else comment on the behringer VMX 300's ability to accomodate an EFX500? (i listed why it may not be up to the part in the opening post)

Does it have effects send/recieve?

If not youre kind of screwed. The only way you could use it is to put the effect over all of the sound, which isnt usually what you want to do with echo loops, that trans scratch, and most everything else...

My pcv275 has effects send/recieve, but apparently it doesnt work very well on that model, so I'm worried that getting an efx wont be worth it, because I really have minimal use for it if I can't assign it to individual channels nicely.

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Originally posted by beats and beeps A mixer, regular turntables, and an efx is all you need. locked grooves.

Most of Zabielas tricks/scrathches need a cd deck you cant do that sort of stuff with "regular turntables"

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Originally posted by First Strike Most of Zabielas tricks/scrathches need a cd deck you cant do that sort of stuff with "regular turntables"

You can if you have the locked groove vinyl that beats and beeps was talking about.

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Originally posted by First Strike Most of Zabielas tricks/scrathches need a cd deck you cant do that sort of stuff with "regular turntables"

You are wrong.


Sorry.

im gonna defend JZ here too... comparing him to a turntabilist would be foolish because although he scratches and is good at it, thats not what makes him a good DJ. anybody remember this?

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'He made me feel sick' was the veteran tech house DJs’ verdict on the young upstart he had played with in Europe the week before. It was something to do with the way he attacked the CDJ1000s, scratching into his opening tune, synching up two copies of another, nudging one slightly out of phase for a big flangey effect before slamming the reverse switch on one of the decks for a rhythmically perfect splurge of aural mayhem. It was another good night out down the disco with James Zabiela.

the reason why he is prolly my fav DJ, is because he is different. for the past 3 years i have been listening to digweed and sasha and they do sweet fuck all in their mixes. all of a sudden JZ comes along and hes showing he has the balls to experiment and the results are amazing.

his music may not be to everyones taste, and is not always my kinda stuff but you can never doubt him when it comes to technical ability.

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