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Originally posted by Trancer-X As I said, it wasn't the best possible analogy. However, Crips and Bloods willingly risk life and limb to be a part of something that doesn't guarantee them success or job security. Anyway, how can you honestly think about job security when your occupation puts you in the direct line of fire? In regards to money, the only wealthy in the military are the top brass of the Commissioned Officers.

NIce post.

No, it wasn't a good analogy as I pointed it out. Crips and Bloods are gangsters fighting for god knows what. American soldiers are fighting for god and country. Many grunts have a family to support on their base back home and that can always be considered a primary reason why they choose to fight to begin with. They carry a rifle and fight, but as far as job skills, it's about like hunting in the civilian world (but that's a hobby). Since there's no real equivalent job out there in civilian life, they really have no job skills to sell themselves on outside of the military unless they want a security job or like position and stretch their job experience. I'm not trying to rationalize that this could be the reason why soldiers reenlist in the military, but only to point out factors which would make them want to reenlist.


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I'm out in 8 months baby! It will be nearly 8 years when I'm out. Staying in the military not as an officer is insane. I don't regret joining... but oh, how am I looking forward to being free again!

My top things I disliked about the military:

- You can't fire anyone.
- The BS you have to put up with is astronomical sometimes (you spend too much time not working)
- Leadership is garbage. Why? Because 100% of the people become leaders if you just stay in long enough. 2 or 20 years, if you are a bad people person and not a leader - you should not ever be in a leadership position.

Anyway... those are my top 3. It's been fun - but I'm outta here!

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Originally posted by smokeape NIce post. No, it wasn't a good analogy as I pointed it out. Crips and Bloods are gangsters fighting for god knows what. American soldiers are fighting for god and country. Many grunts have a family to support on their base back home and that can always be considered a primary reason why they choose to fight to begin with. They carry a rifle and fight, but as far as job skills, it's about like hunting in the civilian world (but that's a hobby). Since there's no real equivalent job out there in civilian life, they really have no job skills to sell themselves on outside of the military unless they want a security job or like position and stretch their job experience. I'm not trying to rationalize that this could be the reason why soldiers reenlist in the military, but only to point out factors which would make them want to reenlist. [[[smoke]]]

I think that a military background actualy DOES provide for useful job skills once back in the workforce. I mean, what type of things do you learn in the army? You learn to disipline yourself, perhaps helping you to better focus on required tasks.. you constantly work within teams, improving your interpersonal and teamwork skills..

I know that, in Australia anyway, if you have two people with the same degree and only one with a military background, the bloke with gun training will more often get the job..

But yeah, attitudes might be different in the US.

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Originally posted by NYGblue You obviously don't talk to people in the military then. In fact you are so dead wrong you couldn't be more wrong if you called Armin van Buuren a good Dj...

i not only "speak" to people in the military but i have officers in my family but yeah ofcourse im wrong and you're right privates that get 12 G's a year join just for that purpose.

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