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Originally posted by Keith Chambers I don't really understand the appeal of Final Scratch (other than 24 bit file support) when SSL works great and Rane is known for their awesome customer support. Doesn't it make sense to bet on the winning horse? I have a 17in Powerbook and SSL. It works awesome!

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Im not even sure if final scratch can actually play 24/96 files. It sounds like it could be a little fishy, like some of the "24/96" soundblasters that can only do 16/48 but have DSPs that are "capable" of doing 24/96. Ie, sb extigy, audigy.

Plus, most audio files you'll use are 16/44 anyway, so there's almost no need for the higher bitrate and samplerate.

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Originally posted by Keith Chambers I don't really understand the appeal of Final Scratch (other than 24 bit file support) when SSL works great and Rane is known for their awesome customer support. Doesn't it make sense to bet on the winning horse? I have a 17in Powerbook and SSL. It works awesome!

After reading all of the negative press of FS2 I am considering returning FS for SSL.

-Keith

Yeah if they are claiming they can play 24/96 files but the output is only 16/44 then SSL can do that too. SSL converts all the files to 32bit internally and then plays them back at 16bit. They can handle 24/96 files fine, you just don't get the extra quality so they don't claim to support it.

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Originally posted by keithos27 After reading all of the negative press of FS2 I am considering returning FS for SSL. -Keith

It probably would be a good idea. I was a FS 1.1 user, and it totally sucked. I've tried different pcs with different chipsets and a mac to see if i can avoid the crash-amp from crashing. It would disconnect than reconnect randomly during use causing the linux version to lockup and to fail on the mac. That happend on all 3 pcs i've installed it on that had different chipsets/processors. Their tech support was horrid, the forums were shut down due to all of the complaints. I was glad i was able to return the package. Here's a funny post from the final-crash forum:

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Final scratch 1.0 $500 1.5 Upgrade $50 1.6 Upgrade $60 2.0 Upgrade $600 Keyspan Firewire $60 Countless hours beta-testing for Stanton and NI, Priceless.

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Man that sucks. With SSL the updates a free.

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Originally posted by Keith Chambers Yeah if they are claiming they can play 24/96 files but the output is only 16/44 then SSL can do that too. SSL converts all the files to 32bit internally and then plays them back at 16bit. They can handle 24/96 files fine, you just don't get the extra quality so they don't claim to support it.

I really don't think this is true. The Rane website says their codec runs at 16/44. However, I do know that they apply the RIAA curve to the input but it looks like they do this at 16/44 since that is what their DSP runs at.

I am sure the SSL hardware is way better than Stantons (I own version 1.5). I was going to upgrade since it costs current FS users just as much as SSL but it seems like FS2 still sucks and my current version is works "OK".

Guess I will upgrade to a better mixer instead or wait until someone comes out with a version supporting three decks (I heard a rumor that Rane's might do this is the distant future).

PS - Stanton's (NI's) support is truely nonexistant. My version 1.1 originally worked ok then suddenly the keyboard would not work (I reinstalled FS and swaped out keyboard with no success). I e-mailed them and got no response and because FS was basically useless I *ahem* upgraded *ahem* (without paying those bastards another $50) to 1.5. Since then it has worked alright.

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I'm just taking their word for it.

http://scratchlive.net/forum/discus...cussion_id=1782

But so far I haven't seen any 'marketing' specs on SSL. If they said it works that way I really trust them.