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| quote: | Originally posted by Steven Hays
OMG, Lithium, you are a jackass.
First off, many digital download sites have songs that aren't even signed yet, and if they are for the most case they are through the record label that releases them on vinyl.
Secondly, if you haven't realised it yet, CD's are the future. They're smaller, hold more, and very much cheaper. Wait a couple of years before vinyl is a thing of the past. You can be a vinyl advocate for the rest of your life, but that's your bank account, and your ignorance that's paying for it.
Third and lastly, if digital downloading is going to put record labels out of business there wouldn't be labels producing MP3's for download in the first place. Hell, I-Tunes wouldn't even exist. For what I see, they're probably making a shitload more money through digital sites. You don't have to be a DJ to buy an MP3 to play on your computer, but for the most part you must be a DJ or some kind of vinyl junkie to buy a record; ie: not everyone owns a turntable, but its a great chance a lot more people own a computer capable of playing MP3's(therefore a broader consumer base). There is also no production cost for downloads, except for minimal website costs.
So with all that said, you are being blind to the situation. Quit living in the past and join many in this forum as we look ahead to the future.
Out,
-Steve |
The future of what exactly Steven?? No one is looking past their noses with the exeption of vinyl DJs as to where digital mixing will lead for the future of dance music. I didn't say "don't provide digital downloads to non-djs".
When vinyl "dies" as you insist it will, you will find a repeat of what happened with disco in late 1979 and early 1980 and in then again with techno/acid house etc. in early to mid 90's when everyone and their dog/record label put out a mass amount of trash from anyone and everyone who could manage to throw something together in a studio - to try and cash in on the wave. That wave CRASHED.
Vinyl pressings are the ULTIMATE ACID TEST for a track. Yes it costs more per copy but it will certainly cost us all a lot less in the long term because the vinyl DJ and vinyl records provide a barrier to the flood gate of shite that comes from every 12-18 year old who "has been in the scene for almost 2 years and is now considered a verteran" with a copy of reason and abletonlive and expects to be worshipped like a god because someone downloaded their track - more often than not for free or illegally. I also have news for you.
Vinyl DJs like myself and internet radio station operators who put together the first trance and collectively underground dance music radio stations (myself included there as my station has been listed in the electronica genre section of iTunes since day one - how that happened I will explain later in my proposal to the underground dance music industry) exclusively online kicked started things all over again in late 1998. Now with the recent crash (again the result of people driven buy "cashing in") in mid-2002 has us scratching our heads going "what's next and will it survive or will dance music be killed for another 20 years at this level we had just experienced? and what will be the cause for it?"
YOUR IGNORANCE OF HISTORY AND INSTISTANCE OF VINYL DJs TO GET WITH THE TIMES will result in just that.
The people who continuously argue about price, convienience and 'weight of the records to carry to a gig' are completely inept and inexperienced in the business and or are essentially cheap ****s.
You don't value the culture obviously so then how do you value the music and the artists with attitudes like this?
Would it also shock you to find out that many so called "pro djs" who play on cds or mix digitally won't really consider anything unless its a promo from a label??THAT PRESSES VINYL!
Yup it would. Because you still have your heads in mp3.com land. I have MORE news for you. Many of the top mp3.com trance and house artists go NOWHERE through those systems and have now turned around and found it is better for their careers and the music as a whole to seek out vinyl record pressing deals and even if that only amounts to 1000 copies, the big ticket is compilation mixed disc releases from djs who will play those records and license them. But there is a barrier to that of course left over from old world music business practices. I will put foward a complete system to change this situation for the better and you will find that not only are you incredibly misinformed but also among a list of very shortsighted people who have contributed more in the form of damage to the dance culture as a whole while filling the pockets of technology companies that will cash in and cash out when the bottom falls out if you get your way.
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DJ Lithium
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Last edited by djlithium on Jan-13-2005 at 05:23
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