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Originally posted by The Master last year system needs to be gone. the nominations were a fücking joke. all remixes were count as the same track, WTF?! so for example if six people voted for 6 different mixes of Randy Katana - In Silence, (salinas summer, txitarro, ron van den beuken, pierre hiver, scratch bandicoot) then all 6 votes went for Randy Katana - In Silence!! this is absurd!! oh and the heats system is even more absurd. having to vote for 2 of 4 tunes in a round is simply another way of manipulating the results. what if i only like one of the 4 tunes? why should i support a tune i don't like? so it get to the finals because some people decided to put it in there? having no score for the tunes lets mediocre tunes get to the finals, let me show you how. take a look to the nominations thread. it is undoubtly the most diverse year in terms of music. everyone has to choose 5 tunes. so lets say everyone has a different top 4, but the fifth choice is common in a considerable amount of people, let's say its Randy Katana - In Silence. this does not mean its their favorite tune, but the system is counting everything as equal so it classifies to the next round. so when people see nothing worth in the next round to vote for (too diverse year), but they see Randy Katana - In Silence, they have no more choice than to vote for it, though it is not their favorite.

Would you like some cheese with that whine?

Listen, I'm absolutely gutted for you that your favourite track didn't win (although Kleenex are delighted that their shares are up 200%), but the fact of the matter is that more people voted for the winner than any other track.

Having to vote for 2 out of 4 isn't "manipulating the results" because the law of averages says that for every person that reluctantly votes for one song, another will reluctantly vote for the other. Most people manages to chosse two from four without any major complaints. Why not you? If you really don't like the tunes that the other Tranceaddicts have nominated then don't vote. It's as simple as that.

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Originally posted by Fundamental Listen, I'm absolutely gutted for you that your favourite track didn't win (although Kleenex are delighted that their shares are up 200%),

(ill post some additional thoughts once I finish typing my paper)

I suggest that we have a separate poll for prog house / breaks and I'll take full responsibility for running it.

we should have one for crybabies too rob & let master ruin, sorry run it

ugh this is going well.

master stop fucking moaning for fucks sake. all ive ever seen u do on this forum, ever, is fucking moan. nothings ever right, this is wrong, this is a fix, what have i got to gain, or manipulating the results? fuck all.

second, i know that if i run track of the year, as i am the official body responsible i shall make sure all the deadlines are hit and etc else. the fact that 5 people have all ran it, and all 5 have made a mess at some point, is enough evidence for me to run it myself nxt year. and if i make a mess too, u can quote this and bring it back.

if the nominated tracks are shit, how is that either mine, ians, fundamental's, or any one individuals fault? thats what the collective voted for. if theyre shit, tough shit, fuck all can be done. and this nonsense that if someone only wanted to vote for 4 tracks, and voting for the 5th that was only mediore nackered the system is laffable. im sure if the person only wanted to vote for 4 tracks, they'd only write down 4.

im sure there was something else i wanted to kick off about that u posted but i cant remember it and i cant be arsed to go back and check either.

If we go with twosongs per vote in the future, I think an None of the Above option should be avaliable as one or both of the songs.

at a complete loss as to why everyone seems to be so obsessed with selecting one track of the year. what is so magical about one year?

a large problem that many have mentioned, is that if the award is conducted on a per-year basis, many tracks from the begining of the year will be forgotten.

this can be easily remedied by conducting two or four seasonal awards e.g. Every three, four, or every six months. That way, the tracks will be fresh in people's minds. this might creat other problems (such as when a track was released)

Of course, people have to get over their hang-up over the yearly thing to accept this, but this isn't to difficult.

Just a idea and i'm open to its criticism.


BTW any idea that tracks go head to head as though they sporting events is tripe. (No offence proponents.) I'd much prefer a an option for voting the top three and weighting them accrordingly and then just selecting the winner. Everyone just votes once and the votes are tallied. Top pick gets 3pts, second 2pts, third 1 pt. Plain and simple without the added heats. For instance:

TA#1
1. Energy 52 - Cafe Del Mar
2. Marco V - Stimulated
3. PPK - Resurrection

TA#2

1. Humate - Love Stimulation
2. Moby - Go
3. Energy 52 - Cafe Del Mar

TA#3

1. Marco V - Stimulated
2. Freefall - Skydive
3. Humate - Love Stimulation


and so forth...

Tabulated you'll get:

Marco V - Stimulated 5 pts
Energy 52 - Cafe Del Mar 4pts
Humate - Love Stimulation 4 pts
Freefall - Skydive 2 pts.
PPK - Resurrection 1 pt
Moby - Go 1pt


Final Rankings

First : Marco V - Stimulated
Second (tie): Energy 52 - Cafe Del Mar & Humate - Love Stimulation
Third: Freefall - Skydive
Fourth(tie): PPK - Resurrection & Moby - Go

I think this is more more simple and clean.

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i have nothing against the uktas in this particular case. i have no idea why a bunch of uktas are the only ones defending the voting system either... interesting but that's not the case.

now ian has no fücking right to even give an opinion in this matter, as he was the fraudulent mind behind the miserable failure and idiotic idea of running the polls how he wanted.

and coup, if you're going to be so permeable about the suggestions then why the fück did you made this thread? stop defending the last voting system and at least tell us why don't you even consider the other ideas.

who choose you to run it? why don't we let people decide who will run it? what makes you different than anyone else? let the members decide which system they want. you already had the opportunity to run it.

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Originally posted by The Master i have nothing against the uktas in this particular case. i have no idea why a bunch of uktas are the only ones defending the voting system either... interesting but that's not the case. now ian has no fücking right to even give an opinion in this matter, as he was the fraudulent mind behind the miserable failure and idiotic idea of running the polls how he wanted. and coup, if you're going to be so permeable about the suggestions then why the fück did you made this thread? stop defending the last voting system and at least tell us why don't you even consider the other ideas. who choose you to run it? why don't we let people decide who will run it? what makes you different than anyone else? let the members decide which system they want. you already had the opportunity to run it.

Coup's done a great job modding polls for 4 years. TOTY is a Poll so it's automatically under his jurisdiction. Simple.

He's asking for ideas on a new system because it's fair in a democracy like TA to ask for improvements, nothing is perfect and he admits that, but until people come up with a better, foolproof system then the current one stays.

You have accused me again, but I only ran the polls like in the 2003 one, my only failing was trying to bring a broader range of styles into the poll to please the diverse tastes of many of the Older TAs.

I suggest a new person to run the system. It doesn't have to be a poll (like the flawless system I suggested) so it's not under anyone's "jurisdiction"

i was actually thinking about this thread earlier.. is this going to be like proposed here, splitting in jan/apr, may/aug, etc or like last year?

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well is anyone going to reply or not? who is in charge here?