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If you believe these things are wrong, convince people to do what's right, don't throw stones at them and tell them to go to hell. Christians are supposed to strive to be like Jesus. Jesus had dinner with prostitutes and criminals, and 'convinced' (for lack of a better term) them to give up their evil ways by showing grace and mercy. In fact, of all the years I've been going to church... I've never heard the story of Jesus lobbying to make abortion (or ANYTHING for that matter) illegal. He taught what was right, he taught what was wrong, and after that, it is the people's decision. They will be punished by GOD, even if the immoral life they choose is 'legal'. The laws of the world have no effect on God's judgements.

I find it strange how Christians try to force non-Christians to conform to their beliefs. If that's what God wanted, he'd do it himself. He wants people to CHOOSE to follow and obey. God wants his people to go out and teach others His ways and bring them to choose Him. He wants WILLING servants. Like I pointed out earlier, I haven't read the verse where Jesus teaches us to make things illegal and FORCE others to follow God's commands (although I've read plenty of his teachings about what will happen to you if you decide not to follow them). For instance, if the only reason you haven't smoked pot is because it's illegal, but you know that if it were legal, you'd be perma-fried for the rest of your natural life. Then, logically, you didn't follow his command at all, you simply didn't have any other choice.


"Do not let yourself be conquered by the evil, but keep conquering the evil with the good. Let every soul be in subjection to the superior authorities, for there is no authority except by God; the existing authorities stand placed in their relative positions by God. Therefore he who ranges himself up against the authority has taken a stand against the arrangement of God; those who have taken a stand against it will receive judgment to themselves. For those ruling are an object of fear, not to the good deed, but to the evil. Do you, then, want to have no fear of the authority? Keep doing good, and you will have praise from it; for it is God's minister to you for your good. But if you are doing evil, be in fear: for it is not without purpose that it bears the sword: for it is God's minister, an avenger to express wrath upon the one practicing evil." - Romans 12:21 to 13:4


"Pay back, therefore, Caesar's things to Caesar, but God's things to God." Matthew 22:17-21

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"Do not let yourself be conquered by the evil, but keep conquering the evil with the good. Let every soul be in subjection to the superior authorities, for there is no authority except by God; the existing authorities stand placed in their relative positions by God. Therefore he who ranges himself up against the authority has taken a stand against the arrangement of God; those who have taken a stand against it will receive judgment to themselves. For those ruling are an object of fear, not to the good deed, but to the evil. Do you, then, want to have no fear of the authority? Keep doing good, and you will have praise from it; for it is God's minister to you for your good. But if you are doing evil, be in fear: for it is not without purpose that it bears the sword: for it is God's minister, an avenger to express wrath upon the one practicing evil." - Romans 12:21 to 13:4


"Pay back, therefore, Caesar's things to Caesar, but God's things to God." Matthew 22:17-21


Which version of the bible is this? Looks like the New World Translation ?


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Which version of the bible is this? Looks like the New World Translation ?

Yea. For me, those old school versions are impossible to read. I'm surprised people still even use them...

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"Do not let yourself be conquered by the evil, but keep conquering the evil with the good. Let every soul be in subjection to the superior authorities, for there is no authority except by God; the existing authorities stand placed in their relative positions by God. Therefore he who ranges himself up against the authority has taken a stand against the arrangement of God; those who have taken a stand against it will receive judgment to themselves. For those ruling are an object of fear, not to the good deed, but to the evil. Do you, then, want to have no fear of the authority? Keep doing good, and you will have praise from it; for it is God's minister to you for your good. But if you are doing evil, be in fear: for it is not without purpose that it bears the sword: for it is God's minister, an avenger to express wrath upon the one practicing evil." - Romans 12:21 to 13:4


"Pay back, therefore, Caesar's things to Caesar, but God's things to God." Matthew 22:17-21


In other words... ?

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Yea. For me, those old school versions are impossible to read. I'm surprised people still even use them...


Did you get that from the witnesses? Just curious.


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