"Who is ever gonna stop Bush I wonder?
Iran can have nuked just like any other country in this world.You wanna get rid of nukes then get rid of them all including your own."

You see this just shows how fucked up your thinking is. You compare a dictators ability to have nuclear weapons with a democracy. Hidden within this shows your distrust of democracies. Sorry but we wont give our nukes to a bunch of terrorists and let them go wild.

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Originally posted by denny_shibby "Who is ever gonna stop Bush I wonder? Iran can have nuked just like any other country in this world.You wanna get rid of nukes then get rid of them all including your own." You see this just shows how fucked up your thinking is. You compare a dictators ability to have nuclear weapons with a democracy. Hidden within this shows your distrust of democracies. Sorry but we wont give our nukes to a bunch of terrorists and let them go wild.

you can shove your American democracy up your ass.The Iranian people can decide on their own about their own future,there is no need for Americans to to be involved in this AT ALL.

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Everybody here just read this? Here are the kooks coming out. You see when you get them mad they show there true colors everybody. They literally will come out against a democracy and ridicule it as much as they can, but a fucking dictatorship, well we should leave them alone. These are the kooks that make up the left of this world. Talk about extremist.

Are they? How is dictatorship them deciding?

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Originally posted by denny_shibby Everybody here just read this? Here are the kooks coming out. You see when you get them mad they show there true colors everybody. They literally will come out against a democracy and ridicule it as much as they can, but a fucking dictatorship, well we should leave them alone. These are the kooks that make up the left of this world. Talk about extremist.

Iam not agaisnt democracy moron,Iam against American involvements in other countries businesses.People can decide on their own without anyone telling them what to choose.

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Yeah you say that now, but in your um rather heated comments. You showed a side to yourself that you probably don't show to many people on these forums. Heres the spiel, you guys spend all day demonizing the U.S., impugning us, calling us religous holy rollers, etc., but it comes to criticizing a dictatorship, oh thatscrossing the line, thats evil you war monger.

How in the blue fuck did the Iranian people choose to have a dictator? This guy grabbed power when a bunch of Islamic fundamentalists decided that they spoke for their entire country and choose one dictator over another. They didn't choose then and they don't certainly choose now. Don't give me this bullshit that the Iranian people choose anything. They had no election to put these guys in power. They didn't even have an election to not have elections. You tell me, HOW DID THEY CHOOSE to be under a repressive dictatorship.

I bet this just seriously makes you angry inside doesn't it, the young generation of Iran is on the verge of revolution and in due time will overthrow the Mullahs and instill democracy in Iran. Oh one more democracy that you socialist bastards have to ridicule to the nth degree. Oh woh is you.

Hey we did choose in the U.S. And do you know what we chose? We chose a party that isn't afraid to use force to end threatening dictatorships in this world. So maybe you should practice what you just preached and let US DECIDE ON OUR OWN WITHOUT YOU BASTARDS TELLING US WHAT TO CHOOSE.

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Originally posted by denny_shibby Everybody here just read this? Here are the kooks coming out. You see when you get them mad they show there true colors everybody. They literally will come out against a democracy and ridicule it as much as they can, but a fucking dictatorship, well we should leave them alone. These are the kooks that make up the left of this world. Talk about extremist. Are they? How is dictatorship them deciding?

Democracies should be CHOSEN by the people of that nation.. not by another government on the other side of earth you moron

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Originally posted by denny_shibby Yeah you say that now, but in your um rather heated comments. You showed a side to yourself that you probably don't show to many people on these forums. Heres the spiel, you guys spend all day demonizing the U.S., impugning us, calling us religous holy rollers, etc., but it comes to criticizing a dictatorship, oh thatscrossing the line, thats evil you war monger. How in the blue fuck did the Iranian people choose to have a dictator? This guy grabbed power when a bunch of Islamic fundamentalists decided that they spoke for their entire country and choose one dictator over another. They didn't choose then and they don't certainly choose now. Don't give me this bullshit that the Iranian people choose anything. They had no election to put these guys in power. They didn't even have an election to not have elections. You tell me, HOW DID THEY CHOOSE to be under a repressive dictatorship. I bet this just seriously makes you angry inside doesn't it, the young generation of Iran is on the verge of revolution and in due time will overthrow the Mullahs and instill democracy in Iran. Oh one more democracy that you socialist bastards have to ridicule to the nth degree. Oh woh is you. Hey we did choose in the U.S. And do you know what we chose? We chose a party that isn't afraid to use force to end threatening dictatorships in this world. So maybe you should practice what you just preached and let US DECIDE ON OUR OWN WITHOUT YOU BASTARDS TELLING US WHAT TO CHOOSE.

The majority of the IRanian people supported the revolution thinking it would oust their already brutal and self absorbed dictator Pahlavi. Just look at the footage of people who wanted change.

Khomeini didnt have to FORCE himself into that country.. the people trusted his ambitions and gave him the chance. When he died.. the real monsters came into power. So to put it in words again.. fuck your american "democracy" installations. Persians are smarter than you think.. they willnever let the yanks take over them like the US did in iraq.

The US should fix up thier own fucked up nation before "caring" about others

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Okay after watching how big of "rent a mobs" certain constituancies can get to show for the camera, you can never trust a bunch of parading people in the streets to represent an entire nation. How do you know that the Iranian people all supported Khomeini? Was there a national poll taken or something? Don't get me wrong the Shah was a fucking asshole that I wouldn't suspect anybody liked, but you some how imply that those few thousands of people in the streets spoke for the ENTIRE country, when they decided to put Khomeini in. How was the dictatorship CHOOSEN by the people of Iran? You even admit that the monsters took power when Khomeini died, how did the people CHOOSE that? How are they CHOOSING to live under that shit? How can they CHOOSE to have a democracy in an undemocratic oppressive country? They can't now. At least a group of that nation is going to force the change necessary to create the system that allows people of that nation to START CHOOSING what is needed in that country. That system is democracy. And yes the Persians are smart, smart enough to be on the verge of revolution.

You know both Iraq and Afghanistan the reoccuring message the inhabitants always say is, "Don't leave us." They are terrified that U.S. will leave their countries to have there nations fall back into some dictatorship or warlord power. This has come to such a level that Afghanies have started to beg the U.S. to create a permenant base in Afghanistan to protect if shit ever hits the fan.

We have done great things for this world and are doing great things for this world, you guys don't do shit and then sit back and ridicule us for our great actions. You are members of the Bribed and Coerced(oil for food). We rescued Europe in WWI, WWII, we protected Berlin, we freed millions of eastern Europeans, and now we are freeing the Middle East the later of which with endless ridicule from do nothing pieces of shit like you. You are so back ass backwards its not even funny.

A couple of questions for you:

After the Middle East is free and they are telling the world that the U.S. stood up for them when the rest of the world ignored them, will you guys bitch at us again when we set our sights on saving lets say Africa?

If and when the Iranians do overthrow the Mullahs, are you going to be still claiming that the Persians are smart people?

I bet you will say yes to the 2nd, but I also think that will be the last statement you ever give calling the Persians smart.

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Originally posted by denny_shibby Yeah you say that now, but in your um rather heated comments. You showed a side to yourself that you probably don't show to many people on these forums. Heres the spiel, you guys spend all day demonizing the U.S., impugning us, calling us religous holy rollers, etc., but it comes to criticizing a dictatorship, oh thatscrossing the line, thats evil you war monger.

blah blah blah

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How in the blue fuck did the Iranian people choose to have a dictator?

They didnt you retard,the Americans did,they wanted shah removed from power so they brought Khomaeni from paris to Iran.The people didnt choose him,they got brainwashed to think he'll be a better leader then the shah.

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This guy grabbed power when a bunch of Islamic fundamentalists decided that they spoke for their entire country and choose one dictator over another. They didn't choose then and they don't certainly choose now.

Have you lived there?how the fuck do you know what the people think over there? are you basing your opinion on what you see on Fox or CNN?

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Don't give me this bullshit that the Iranian people choose anything.

They can and they will without the fuckin yanks.

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They had no election to put these guys in power. They didn't even have an election to not have elections. You tell me, HOW DID THEY CHOOSE to be under a repressive dictatorship.

which guys are you talking about exactly here?do you know about the system there?or you just talking out of your ass? if you are talking about the president yes he was choosed and elected by the people,he is not a religious fanatic like the Iranian religious leader infact he is against them and he has lots of conflicts with the religious leader and he was about to get assasinated not too long ago, but since he has no real power in the country his role in the country he cant make alot of decisions.

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I bet this just seriously makes you angry inside doesn't it, the young generation of Iran is on the verge of revolution and in due time will overthrow the Mullahs and instill democracy in Iran. Oh one more democracy that you socialist bastards have to ridicule to the nth degree. Oh woh is you.

I bet it makes you fuckin yanks pissed off knowing that the people there dont want and wont let the Americans to come and invade them.

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Originally posted by denny_shibby How do you know that the Iranian people all supported Khomeini?

At that time they did,because Khomeini made them think that he'll be better then Shah.

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How are they CHOOSING to live under that shit? How can they CHOOSE to have a democracy in an undemocratic oppressive country? They can't now.

yes maybe not now,but dont forget that a big change like that takes time,and dont believe what you watch on FOX,yes there are people suffering right now,but then there are millions who are living just fine.The situation isnt as bad as you think it is.But thats not what The U.S. worries about,they dont give two shits about the people.They want our oil and to destroy the so called nuclear bombs.

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At least a group of that nation is going to force the change necessary to create the system that allows people of that nation to START CHOOSING what is needed in that country. That system is democracy. And yes the Persians are smart, smart enough to be on the verge of revolution.

which group? The Mojahedins? lol you think thats democracy?Iranians hate those fackers with passion,if they ever step into Iran they will all fuckin die. Mojahedins are worse then the mullahs.

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You know both Iraq and Afghanistan the reoccuring message the inhabitants always say is, "Don't leave us." They are terrified that U.S. will leave their countries to have there nations fall back into some dictatorship or warlord power.

aaaaaaaaaaaahhahahha "DONT LEAVE US"??? yeah thats why there are bombs blowing up daily in Iraq,I guess that means they love the Americans!! Iraq situation is far worse then it was back in Saddam days thanks to Bush.Now there are terrorists coming from all over the middle east to join the fight.Once again I say shove your democracy and freedom up Bush's ass!!!

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This has come to such a level that Afghanies have started to beg the U.S. to create a permenant base in Afghanistan to protect if shit ever hits the fan.

source?

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We have done great things for this world and are doing great things for this world, you guys don't do shit and then sit back and ridicule us for our great actions. You are members of the Bribed and Coerced(oil for food). We rescued Europe in WWI, WWII, we protected Berlin, we freed millions of eastern Europeans, and now we are freeing the Middle East the later of which with endless ridicule from do nothing pieces of shit like you. You are so back ass backwards its not even funny.

Yes great things

killing millions of people and ruining and invading countries is a great thing.

Middle east will be free once you fuckin yanks leave.

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How fuckin removed from reality are you?

You have still haven't provided any proof that all the people or even a majority of the people wanted Khomeini, if they had a choice of anybody, in power. You continue to speak for the Iranians when you don't know dick.

Yeah not everybody in Iran is suffering, I never said a majority did, but a decent portion are suffering, and none have any freedoms what so ever.

Don't impugn our integrity by claiming that we are in it for oil. You have no evidence what so ever that, that is our intentions. That is the equivalent of us saying that your government has a ploy to toss dissenters of your country in jail. It is a conspiracy theory. Conspiracy theories are allegations directed at people of secret plots or secret intentions with absolutely no evidence to even make them plausible.

The group I'm talking about is the now young generation of Iran. They have been growing increasingly militant in their desire for a democratic Iran.

The bombs that go off daily in Iraq are from a very very very small group of extremist terrorists, most of which are from neighboring countries. They don't speak for the population of Iraq.

Source? How about President Karzais own fucking mouth. I have actually heard is statements asking for a permenant base in Afghanistan, but you wouldn't know about that you are a canadian liberal tied to the most retarded network on earth the CBC.

Then you accuse us of killing millions of people. Dear god, you see you don't know this but everybody that is looking at this thread has now lost all respect for you. Anybody that makes stupid fucking comments like that will be seen as a fucking retard to not be taken seriously in any future posts.

Hey seriously, I bet you have a huge bag full of other weird ass arguments to make about this, lets hear them all. I want everybody in this thread to see how removed the left is from reality. Lets here more. Then after all those kook ass arguments you'll probably be fuming, so I give you permission to just let it all out. Just really hand it to us, every foul thing you can say about me, my country, and fox news that even though your attempts to prevent it from coming up there, made it up there anyway. Call us fucking sobs, assholes, whatever. Anything you got. I bet you'll feel

I go to canada 3 times a year. First of all its a shithole. And lets compare fox news with the CBC. Fox News has more or less has the same amount of liberal commentators as conservative. Has the same number of liberal and conservative contributors, and the same number of democrat and republican strategists. Their straight news anchors like Sheppard Smith only report the news don't comment, don't mention one sides(there politicians) comments about something and not the other, and don't selectively pick out news based on what they want their listeners to hear. The CBC talks to its listeners like they are fucking 2. They make the most retarded comments like, "Recent studies have shown that road access to a lake actually has an affect for fisherman to be able to get on the lake." Gee no shit shirlock. When talking about the previous elections they admit that they could see a decline in funding if who was it Harper got elected and then tried to act like it could remain unbiased in its reporting of the election. They always quoted Martin, but paraphrased Harper. The tipping point comes from the fact that you guys actually want to care so much keeping your people indoctrinated that you actually wanted to prevent fox news from coming up there. Yeah you can't beat their viewpoints so what do you do, you silence them. The difference between me and you is that, you want to silence your opponents, I want them to speak up and be more honest so that everybody can now how fucked up and kooky they are. I watch, listen and read the liberal articles, broadcasts, etc. including the weird ass cbc, do you listen to our viewpoint. Do you watch even a fair and balanced network like fox news? Who wants to take bets that I know the answer, anybody want to put money down. Its obvious he'll say no.