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Originally posted by imokruok The US, on the other hand, does a pretty good job of integrating muslims into Western society.

Thats all I was saying, really.

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Originally posted by imokruok Plus, there are a hell of a lot less of them here than in Europe - by far.

Pfft. You give us any culture any society any way of living or doing something and we'll have it Americanized for you tomorrow. Even if it means dropping a bomb, sorry Iraq.

We poor the salad bowl into the melting pot and stir. Then sell it deep fried at McDonalds for $1.

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Originally posted by imokruok 2) The US can't be lumped in with Europe when you talk about Islam "conquering" the regions. You can already see the friction in Europe from the governments' inability to assimilate immigrants. Case in point: the ghettoes in Paris, Rotterdam, etc. Islam will attempt to conquer these societies because its followers have no role to play in the local culture. The US, on the other hand, does a pretty good job of integrating muslims into Western society. Plus, there are a hell of a lot less of them here than in Europe - by far.

I think this is true to most "old worlds" and "new worlds". Brazil also integrates immigrants quite easily

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Shadowolf has admitted to being the child of Fascist immigrants to Canada. Enough said.

And easy on the fonts cowboy. I might need a few more monitors to read your posts.

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Originally posted by razmataz Shadowolf has admitted to being the child of Fascist immigrants to Canada. Enough said.

I suggest you watch your mouth.

Stick to the issue at hand please.

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Originally posted by ShadoWolf I suggest you watch your mouth. Stick to the issue at hand please.

But you are an immigrant

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Originally posted by h@x0r Islam is one of the "youngest" religions. And as such, to survive it must use whatever means are necessary and the means are fear - just like always. Christianity did the same thing when it was starting out. Crussades were not about re-occupying formerly Christian lands, this is bullshit. Israel was not christian for thousands of years! Crussaders came to the "Land of Christ" to claim it as theirs, destroyed temples, killed jews - all in the name of "Our Lord". What about the Inquisition in 1400's??? What was that about? Spreading the message of love through torture, murder, expulsion, robbery? Please, Islam is just giving you a taste of your own medicine. Why Islam is the leading religion in US Prisons???? Because if you don't convert, they rape your infidel ass until you're ready for some protection. When you're one of Islam's own, they will protect you and you won't get violated no more. Please, get real. The only comforting fact here is that at least the world is not so worried about the Jews taking over the world anymore. Here's the only thing Cyrus King and I seem to agree on: ALL FORMS OF RELIGIOUS FUNDAMENTALISM AND EXTREMISM IS IDIOTIC AND MUST BE ERADICATED! QUITE HONESTLY, A LITTLE "CLEAN UP JOB" IN THE WORLD TO WASH AWAY ISLAMIC FUNDAMENTALISTS WOULDN'T BE A BAD IDEA... MAYBE SOME SERIOUS CLENSING IS IN ORDER??? NO? JUST A THOUGHT

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In Britain, attendance at mosques is now higher than it is in the Church of England.

Riiiiiiiiight, and that tells us what? That there are shit loads of Muslims invading our country, or that the UK is the most unreligious country in the world after North Korea??? Maybe we should get more Muslims over and convert them to secularism/religious apathy???

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Originally posted by josh4 Thats all I was saying, really. Pfft. You give us any culture any society any way of living or doing something and we'll have it Americanized for you tomorrow. Even if it means dropping a bomb, sorry Iraq. We poor the salad bowl into the melting pot and stir. Then sell it deep fried at McDonalds for $1.

maybe 100 years ago America was a melting pot of cultures open to all peoples of the world - can the same be said today of "fortress" America??

i'm with shadowolf on this one... I went to Syria and Lebanon last month and the article is right about islam wanting to conquer the world either by force or with the sword.

We left Syria many years ago because there is no future for Christians in this country, the same can be said about Lebanon.

Bush must invade Syria!

and you guys especially Lira, talking about cultural "benefits" have no idea what the hell you're talking about. You never went to a muslim country, you don't know how it is over there, ...

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Originally posted by malek i'm with shadowolf on this one... I went to Syria and Lebanon last month and the article is right about islam wanting to conquer the world either by force or with the sword. We left Syria many years ago because there is no future for Christians in this country, the same can be said about Lebanon. Bush must invade Syria!

Er, I'm sure you have it wrong about Lebanon (can you expand?) as the Christians are the most powerful ethnic group in the country last time I checked?

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Originally posted by George Smiley Er, I'm sure you have it wrong about Lebanon (can you expand?) as the Christians are the most powerful ethnic group in the country last time I checked?

er no, Lebanon had a comfortable Christian majority before the civil war, since then, most Christians have left to South America, Europe, Canada, USA, etc, etc. There literaly millions of Christian Lebanese outside of Lebanon.

Now its around 60/40 in favor of muslims and the only reason why Christians have some power left is because in the new consitution every ethnic group is guaranteed a fixed position in the govt (the prime minister should be coming from this group, the president from that group, etc etc...)

Essentially, those in favor of Syrian activities in Lebanon are Muslim, and those against it are Christians.

In Syria it used to be 25% or so Christian, now its a mere 5-10%.