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malek
drinks your milkshake!
Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Montréal
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| quote: | Originally posted by starsearcher
Yup...besides let's not talk about FORD quality...FORD, especially in north america is a big piece of shit car, horrible quality, and very unreliable...drive it off the parking lot and the price DIVES down. I would never take a Ford over a European car or an Infinty for that matter. Speaking of which, the Infinitys are VERY SEXY!  |
woooaah, relax buddy, you make them sound as if they're as bad as Lada's.
American cars have surpassed European cars in reliability but are still far away from Japanese cars. Volkswagen, Porshe, BMW and even Mercedes have had serious reliablity issues lately. The only clear winner in the European market is Audi. Please visit Consumer report of 2004 for more details.
The interior finish of alot of American cars have been a serious problem, thats true And especially in older Mustangs. But there's also the luxury brands like Lincoln, Cadillac and some high end Chryslers that are onpar with their European counterparts, don't brush them off. Don't compare a Ford with a BMW, compare them with Lincoln or Cadillac instead. Also, everyone blames american cars for their medicore interiors while forgetting that not too long ago (and still in many models) Japanese cars have been even worse!
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 Feb-08-2005 18:36 
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malek
drinks your milkshake!
Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Montréal
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European vehicle reliability stalls
Consumer Reports annual survey of cars and trucks rates Asian brands on top, U.S. mixed, Europe worst.
By Brett Clanton / The Detroit News
European automakers fared the worst on Consumer Reports magazine's closely watched survey of vehicle reliability, with Asian brands dominating and Detroit automakers scoring mixed results.
Consumer Reports' New Car Preview 2005, which hits newsstands today, offers the first look at findings from an annual survey of about 5 million car and truck owners, who answer questions about problems with their vehicles during the past three years. Consumer Reports uses the data to make predictions about the reliability of 2005 models that are reaching showrooms this year. The magazine designates vehicles as "most reliable," "least reliable" or average.
The magazine weighs reliability heavily in determining whether it will ultimately recommend car or truck to readers. The recommendation can be crucial to a vehicle's success. About 40 percent of U.S. car buyers consult Consumer Reports before buying a new car or truck.
Among the 32 vehicles considered most reliable, 29 were built by Japanese companies, according to the survey.
Toyota Motor Co.p. led the pack with 16 models spread over its Toyota, Scion and Lexus brands, while Honda Motor Co. had seven models on the most reliable list, including two by its Acura brand.
General Motors Corp. was the only domestic company to make the most reliable list, scoring two spots, with its Pontiac Grand Prix and soon-to-be-discontinued Buick Regal.
Of the 38 models in the least reliability category, 20 were European, 13 were built by U.S. companies and five were Asian. Among the least reliable: the Ford F-150, the Volkswagen Touareg SUV, Jaguar X-Type sedan, BMW 5 Series sedan, Nissan Quest minivan and the Mercedes-Benz SLK roadster.
David Champion, director of automotive testing for Consumer Reports in East Haddam, Conn., said European automakers fared worst in the survey because of glitches with electrical and power systems.
"Mercedes, BMW and Jaguar tend to come out with the latest features more so than other manufacturers do," while Japanese automakers tend to keep their cars and processes more simple, he said.
The survey follows J.D. Power and Associates' most recent Vehicle Dependability Study of 3-year-old vehicles, which showed ''substantial quality gaps'' between domestic and European models. In the study, European vehicles had 49 more problems per 100 vehicles than did U.S. cars and trucks at three years of ownership.
Detroit automakers, however, should not be celebrating just yet. Consumers are still finding reason to complain about domestic models, he said.
"Sometimes it's the smaller aspects that become very annoying, like the cup holder lid that keeps on dropping off. It's not something that's going to stop you in the street driving along, but it's something that's really annoying that you use every day. It's that attention to detail that the domestics are missing."
But Consumer Reports did reward quality improvements at the Big Three by moving several vehicles into the "recommended" column, including the Chrysler Pacifica wagon, Cadillac CTS sedan and Ford Explorer Sport Trac truck.
The magazine only recommends a vehicle if it receives good consumer survey scores, passes internal driving tests and scores well on federal safety guidelines.
Big Three officials said better scores in some areas were proof that efforts to improve quality are paying off, but they acknowledged that low marks signal there is work to be done.
"One of the main things that still needs to change is consumer perception," said Sam Locricchio, a spokesman for DaimlerChrysler AG's Chrysler Group in Auburn Hills. While Chrysler has made big strides in improving quality during the last three years, the market is slow to give domestic automakers credit, he said.
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