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b4k-oz
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Originally posted by DigiNut
Neither do you, so maybe you should think about that before making assumptions about what people mean and getting in their faces about it.

Is there something wrong with affirming the opinions of someone who's already summed up what you wanted to say? Is that against your conversational regulations?


Whatever your problem is DigiNut, keep it to yourself.
My question was directed to Samhouse, I never asked you to get in my face and interpret for him.
Since I never said I had authority to speak for samhouse, I asked him to ellaborate. You were the one that decided to interpret for him, therefore the only one making assumptions here is you.

As for your insinuation that I am getting in peoples faces, well then your entitled to your opinion...but your reputation speaks for itself.

As to your positive last paragraph....why don't you save it for the next person you want to argue with you. I'm not interested.


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Jem_hadar
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Registered: Nov 2003
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Originally posted by loca
I doubt i would try and discourage them from it, but i certainly wouldn't promote it! I would just talk to them about it - about the effects different drugs have on the body, your perception of things while high, etc.

I would also preach moderation I think i might be a little disappointed if i found out my child was doing drugs, but again, it depends what kind of drug (i'm not saying i would congratulate them either on doing drugs i didn't necessarily disapprove of!). Some of them i would never touch, and i hope my kids would have the same reasoning.


Thatd be how id tackle it too i think Loca

Pretty much, if my kid is smoking weed, i have less of a problem w/ that than oftentimes the crowd of ppl (particularily in highschool) that u end up often ultimately hanging around with.
its not always the drug that makes the "stoner" kids dumb and under-acheivers as is steretypically said... i think its often just those kids' natural take on life and school. (and being high seems to go along great with that type of attitude). it appears to me that ppl with simialr attitudes all happen to seem to enjoy smoking pot and thats why often groups of these "less than idealistic students" form.

sadly, their attitude on life is a very easy one to jump on the bandwagon of (hehehe, just kick back, stop caring and worrying in general about stuff like school, etc.). im not saying that all (or even most) potsmokers in highschool were of such a variety... hell i smoked alot of weed in highschool, but generally for whutever reasons, i never identified w/ the core group of chronic potheads who acted this way.

uhm, i think the point of all that was just to say, for me, id be more concerned about type of ppl my child is more likely to associate w/ if he smokes alot of weed than if he werent to smoke weed at all. i just wouldnt want my child appropriating the attitude that i saw that many of the chronics held at my highschool!

same goes for other drugs. just in general, i dont necessarily find any outright probs w/ doing drugs... but its a damn slippery slope and its easy to start falling down that incline and not really know that u acutally ARE falling down it. thats the scary part u gotta watch out for and be ever viligant in avoiding!


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infinity HiGH
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Originally posted by DigiNut
Uhh, maybe I misunderstood his response, but I interpreted it as meaning that he plans to teach his kids everything he knows about them, positive and negative, and let them decide what to do about it. It's called Harm Reduction.


Thats how I interpreted Samhouse's post as well. I thought it was pretty obvious that thats what he meant.

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b4k-oz
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Originally posted by infinity HiGH
Thats how I interpreted Samhouse's post as well. I thought it was pretty obvious that thats what he meant.


No it wasn't obvious...because everyone's interpretation can be subjective.
That's why I prefer to ask for clarity direct from the source and not from someone else...and I don't think I was being unreasonable with this request.

But it's nice to see how supportive you are to DigiNut...It's always nice to have an alliance of friends.

Sadly samhouse's response has been tainted by the interpretation made by another...it hardly seems worthwhile pursuing.
Especially since there are questions and answers that are of more interest to me now, than what's in this thread.

So have a nice day.


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Originally posted by b4k-oz
DigiNut has no authority to interpret or answer for Samhouse. Only Samhouse can answer the question.

So before you start saying +2, maybe you should decide whether you actually want to contribute an opinion or just follow and agree.




well, okay so i agree with diginut then no necisarily samhouse? i was going to write something similar to what samhouse wrote, but since he already wrote what i thought (and im pretty sure he meant what i meant) then whats the point of writing the same thing again? =)

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rodrico's response sounds like a laugh, but i would just be honest with my kids (if i have any). i would have no problem discussing my experiences with the drugs that i have done and explain why maybe it was a bad idea. but keeping your kids in touch with good information is the best way, kids are pretty fuckin smart these days and will do research if you point them in the right direction. i know i did alot of reading before the first time i dropped E. i wouldnt condone the behavour from my kids but i wouldn't disown them for doing it. unless they redefined moderation to megaration.... then i would have some issues. the one thing i would never do tho is get high with my kids. i got high with one of my aunts once and it was the weirdest trip ever........


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quote:
Originally posted by loca
I doubt i would try and discourage them from it, but i certainly wouldn't promote it! I would just talk to them about it - about the effects different drugs have on the body, your perception of things while high, etc.

I would also preach moderation I think i might be a little disappointed if i found out my child was doing drugs, but again, it depends what kind of drug (i'm not saying i would congratulate them either on doing drugs i didn't necessarily disapprove of!). Some of them i would never touch, and i hope my kids would have the same reasoning.


exactly the way i feel, i would encourage it, but at the same time. I sure am glad for the expiriences i've had. great times.
Of course their are many risk and i beleive that is the key thing to teach your kids. Keep them inform, and raise them properly and they will make the right choise

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I'm curious to know, how you propose to help your children make educated choices if you don't provide the education or the guidelines? Do you think they'll just miraculously be educated from birth? Your answer doesn't make much sense to me. It sounds as if you were just blurting out words to get support while avoiding the question all together. If I'm wrong just let me know your answer then.


What? You want me to spoonfeed you?? Not happening...Diginut and Infinity High interpreted my answer perfectly. I don't need to explain myself any furthur.


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