Another difference I don't think anyone pointed out was that the CDJ 200 (and the 1000 and 1000 MK2) has 0.02% pitch, and from all I've read, is more accurate than the 0.05 on the CDJ 800s (which is more accurate than the 0.1% on the CDJ 100s). The CDJ 200 (And the 1000 MK2) have 6% pitch adjustment too, which from all I've read..is better for longer mixes, like when playing progressive tunes. I was at this argument the other day, and was thinking "just go for the 800s" but when it came down to everything, I want what is most accurate. As the CDJ 200 would save me money, I just can't picture myself using it, since I sold my vinyl turntables and am now mostly going CDJ. If you want something to add to your vinyl turntables, then prolly the 200 (or 800 for that matter) is better, but if your mostly going CDJ, I think the 1000 MK2 is the better bet, even though it is expensive (i'm saving up).

what about the Technics SL-DZ1200?

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Originally posted by Cosmic Realm what about the Technics SL-DZ1200?

I have not heard good reviews about them to tell you the truth Cosmic Realm, flimsy platter, bugs etc. They are definitely not the club standard like their vinyl turntables are, or the Pioneer CDJ 1000s.

well im actually a vinyl snob to be honest, but i took a m8's advise and at least tried a few CDJ's... and out of all the ones i tried... i like that one the best because it actually acted like a turntable...

i thought it wasnt really worth the money brand new... but if i sound some up for bid on e-bay then id think about it...
but now since i have my 1200's i thought id have nothing to really look forward to, but i guess excepting that soon enough CD's will take over whether i like it or not...

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Originally posted by Cosmic Realm well im actually a vinyl snob to be honest, but i took a m8's advise and at least tried a few CDJ's... and out of all the ones i tried... i like that one the best because it actually acted like a turntable... i thought it wasnt really worth the money brand new... but if i sound some up for bid on e-bay then id think about it... but now since i have my 1200's i thought id have nothing to really look forward to, but i guess excepting that soon enough CD's will take over whether i like it or not...

The 1200s are great, no doubt, but it is true that more and more DJs are using CDs and eventually they will replace vinyl as the medium most DJs use. Sure vinyl is great, but things need to progress into the 21st century. Another interesting point is that 13 DJs in DJ Mag's top 100 of 2004 listed the Pioneer CDJ 1000 as their most favorite equipment.

I bought 2 AA CDI-500's and they seem pretty good

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i don't think vinyl will die because for diehard scratch aritsts their are only a lot of scrathces that can be done on vinyl only.

one last thing....does the platter on 800s spin and which one seems much easier to manipulate for scratching (the 800 or 1000 or 1000mk2). Unfortunately there are no dealers in CT so i can't try any of this equipment out, but when i was in san fran there were dealers all over the place.

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Originally posted by spdandpwr Note this message is a little off topic i don't think vinyl will die because for diehard scratch aritsts their are only a lot of scrathces that can be done on vinyl only. one last thing....does the platter on 800s spin and which one seems much easier to manipulate for scratching (the 800 or 1000 or 1000mk2). Unfortunately there are no dealers in CT so i can't try any of this equipment out, but when i was in san fran there were dealers all over the place.

on the pioneer cdj (800/1000/1000mk2) the platter doesn't spin automatically while the cd is playing. only the denons (3000/5000) as far as i know have that option of the platter to spin while the cd is playing.

an addition to the pitch control on the cdj 800, 1000 mk2.

the 1000 mk2 has 0.02% for the +6/-6%, 0.05 for the +10/-10%.

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Originally posted by spdandpwr Note this message is a little off topic i don't think vinyl will die because for diehard scratch aritsts their are only a lot of scrathces that can be done on vinyl only. one last thing....does the platter on 800s spin and which one seems much easier to manipulate for scratching (the 800 or 1000 or 1000mk2). Unfortunately there are no dealers in CT so i can't try any of this equipment out, but when i was in san fran there were dealers all over the place.

Well maybe for scratch artists it will remain, or those that spin older stuff, but for club DJs who just mix I truly think (and am seeing it more and more) that CDs are taking over...maybe not by a huge amount but it is still significant. Most if not all trance and prog DJs don't scratch, so the moving platter isn't as big of a deal. The biggest thing is how it holds pitch, the sound quality and the features like the wave display that I feel are beneficial and lead me (and other DJs) to the 1000 MK2s vs. the 800. The 800 definitely seem more for the scratch/hip hop crowd, and maybe the house crowd, but not trance and prog where there are "typically" longer mixes, not quick transitions.

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Originally posted by Spirit5 Well maybe for scratch artists it will remain, or those that spin older stuff, but for club DJs who just mix I truly think (and am seeing it more and more) that CDs are taking over...maybe not by a huge amount but it is still significant. Most if not all trance and prog DJs don't scratch, so the moving platter isn't as big of a deal. The biggest thing is how it holds pitch, the sound quality and the features like the wave display that I feel are beneficial and lead me (and other DJs) to the 1000 MK2s vs. the 800. The 800 definitely seem more for the scratch/hip hop crowd, and maybe the house crowd, but not trance and prog where there are "typically" longer mixes, not quick transitions.

cds are definetly taking over due to the fact that it's easier to get your music. cheaper to buy a song than one vinyl. although let's not forget with the advancements in technology and ssl or final scratch the tt faithful can still use their trusty tt and not have to spent a fortune on vinyl. due that all their songs will be on their computer and/or laptop.