fucking animals man...

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Originally posted by ShadoWolf wow there's a lot of ignorant people here

No, just you

Do you just jump from thread to thread without any real purpose because you can't really argue for what you believe in??

i love the passion the way people dicuss here..

The most hilarious thing here is when the US shoots down a civilian
on accident (maybe), the response will be " it's a war, get over it"

Other sides does something, suddenly they are animals

Fun fun.

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Originally posted by Octanesyco Greetings. My name is Casey. You can call me Moose. -Moose

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Originally posted by Nou How come right wing neo nazi's in the US are almost always christian. Shadowolf, your just as much a nazi as the muslims are you ignorant right winger.

Hitler denounced Christianity, persecuted CHristians, and au pined that Islam was a religion better suited to a warring nation.


As to the Crusades, it was a defensive war designed to protect Christian pilgrims from the Muslims invaders.


It seems that you have a lot to learn.

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Originally posted by ShadoWolf As to the Crusades, it was a defensive war designed to protect Christian pilgrims from the Muslims invaders. It seems that you have a lot to learn.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!....because he is serious

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Originally posted by Massive84 i love the passion the way people dicuss here.. The most hilarious thing here is when the US shoots down a civilian on accident (maybe), the response will be " it's a war, get over it" Other sides does something, suddenly they are animals Fun fun.

there's a difference between shooting down a helicopter in guerilla warfare and shooting excution style an injuried soldier.

The second being a war crime.

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Originally posted by malek there's a difference between shooting down a helicopter in guerilla warfare and shooting excution style an injuried soldier. The second being a war crime.

And you actually think they give a fuck?

get out your hole war is war, bad shit happens.

Americans kill civilians, insurgents and there allies with 'friendly fire'.....

Iraqis kill opposition soldiers and affiliates of the war (journalists etc.)

yes there methods (in western eyes) may be barbaric but the east is a totally different place.

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Originally posted by Q5echo first off, you're an idiot. there i said it. been wanting to for a while.

You're the one who puts blind faith in your leaders not me.

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secondly, tell a newly registered Iraqi voter that he's in denial or to snap out of it. tell the same thing to the Mayor of Baghdad. tell that crap to an Iraqi national guardsman walking his watch at a pipeline somewhere in the desert. you think your so hip and progressive that you don't believe anything the news tells you? are you in the cool little secret society that knows what really is going on over there and throughout the Greater Middle East?

I'm very skeptical of coorperate owned mainstream Amercian media. You don't need to be in a secret society to read alternative news sources, human rights reports etc.

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you're a fucking fraud that fell for the anti-war excuses for hating you're own country for what you're country does best. live with it or grow up.

I'm not a fraud, just informed and not brainwashed like you. No, I don't hate my own country. Unlike you, I'm not eager to see my fellow citizens go and kill other people for oil and die in the process. Not top mention all the horrible human rights violations that are going on there rightnow, the prison abuse being one of the cases that leaked out and managed to make into mainstream american media.

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Originally posted by Cyrus King WAR WAR WAR.. LETS ATTACK LETS ATTACK....WAR WAR WAR.. LETS ATTACK Youre the ignorant fuck who still supports this futile corporate venture that has really fucked up that region, yuor place in the world.. and the safety of your own country. WHo the fuck do you think you are going into a nation for your own selfish reasons you pathetic death lover

I'm sorry, who are you?

don't worry guys, we are getting to them .
Our guys put them down and they never see it coming like here. This is acutally fun cause you can see one of those bad ass 500lbs bombs level their building into smithereens http://www.sagoons.com/~iraq/movies/500.mpg

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Originally posted by Nou I dont think that they have to follow those laws established, as only nations that signed the conventions that govern the treatment of injured soldiers are required to. Since these are rebel groups not associated with any sort of legitimate government they dont have to follow those rules. If a nation that has signed any of those conventions did what these people did then, yea thats a war crime. Im sorry, but if you were injured and I found you and your are an enemy soldier, I would do one of two things. Leave you injured to die or end your life. NOW, think about this... these are once again rebels so they dont exactly have the logistics to take care of prisoners or injured, ALSO if they leave the person alive there is the possibility of that person being returned to active duty. This is war, if you dont like how its going or how things happen, DONT SUPPORT IT! I'm sorry, but you cant have some parts of war with out the others, if you dont like or accept all of it, then you cant support any of it. So, ignore, accept, or resist, thats your only choice.

Of course, using that argument, one can fully justify the abandonment of POW conventions by the US when it comes to prisoner treatment of insurgents. It would be another simple fact of "war". I don't think Malek's comment had so much to to do with literal legality as it it had to do with morality in a combat zone. Is it morally justifiable to deprive terrorists in guantanemo bay of basic rights simply because they don't fall under the legal definitions of the geneva conventions? Of course not. Similarly, is it morally justifiable for these insurgents to have executed that civilian because they were never signatories to the geneva conventions or they're logistically challenged otherwise? Of course not. Or do atrocities have a weighting system asigned to them when one side becomes disadvantaged enough?

Supporting war doesn't mean you have to accept EVERY bad thing associated with war (and I can assure you, Malek doesn't support this war). Making that argument leaves you on a very slippery slope.

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Human Rights Watch has called for Donald Rumsfeld and George Tenet to be investigated for their possible role in abuses in Iraq.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4475133.stm

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