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Originally posted by Yoepus Actually that is not true. I was in Amsterdam about a month or so ago and I was very curious about the economics of it all. Was weed in Amsterdam cheaper? Was it better quality? Was it both? I mean we all know its legal there, but so what? Since I have no clue what price or quality is like, I asked all the pot-smoking-hippie liberals I happened to come across (it was not hard) most indicated that the price is basically the same. Many from New York said they knew of better and cheaper places to obtain weed State side, and that Amsterdam was more expensive. Most Europeans however did say weed was not necessairly cheaper, but of better quality in Amsterdam than in their city of orgin. From my unpercise research it seems that the best place to get good cheap weed is in cities with college campuses in the USA. Otherwise weed is cheaper in rural areas as a 'rule' and of better quality in cities. Amsterdam seemed to be the defining "Average" of world prices and quality from what I uncovered. I did hear that hard drugs in Amsterdam were cheaper and more available than in most places across the world, but I didn't investigate this further as its not pleasent walking up to drug addicts in the street. They alway ask for money

When I went to Amsterdam the weed was twice as strong and half the price that we get it for

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Originally posted by Yoepus I don't know what you mean. Recent studies I've seen have proven that daily consumption of alcoholic beverages (namely red wine and beer) actually increase ones health by decreasing risk to heart attack and other factors. So alcohol is not only harmless, its benificial.

Yes i know, there are many studies showing that pot is healthy too, for example against cancer.

However, that doesnt really have anything to do with my point my point was that pot doesnt have to be bad for you if you can handle it, not any worse than alcohol that 98% of everyone consumes...

this might be a little to late to say but i think i read in the thread somewhere where who should regulate the drugs the government or criminals. About that my dads cousin is involved in the mexican mafia and i don't mean hes a soldier he is pretty much a "boss" He is making millions of dollars my dad tells me stories of him filling up suitcases filled with cash and sending them to Chicago I am not sure what for. But basically he pays money to the cops the cops take it and he is still free. He enjoys a standard of living so ridiculous that it pisses me off. The small town in Mexico he was from he basically owns all the businesses. So when it comes to who should be making the money it should be the government because it is never right for people like my dads cousin to have millions when he is hurting people and he doesnt give a shit about them.

How many raging potheads have you seen?
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What does that mean? Let alone, how that doesn't even further the discussion. The question is should marijuana be legal. How does raging potheads prove either side of the arguement.

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Originally posted by kush paintings What does that mean? Let alone, how that doesn't even further the discussion. The question is should marijuana be legal. How does raging potheads prove either side of the arguement.

It's a rheotorical statement.
Anyone who's ever smoked marijuana knows that the last thing on their mind is to go out and cause problems...if anything, it's trying to figure out how to get the bowl of munchies outta my buddies' grubby hands...

Don't get me wrong, I'm not a heavy user or even a nominal user, more of a 'social' user (if such a term exists).

So the answer to your question is yes.
If one takes into account all of the money that could be saved by diverting law enforcement to where it's really needed and made from taxing marijuana, then an emphatic YES!

If it wasn't for the reefer madness from south of the border, it'd probably be legal here...

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Thank you for clarifying.

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Originally posted by George Smiley When I went to Amsterdam the weed was twice as strong and half the price that we get it for

Well I'm not suprised, everything is twice as expensive in the UK and taste like shit!


Come on you know its true, you guys eat the blandest non-tasting food imaginable and pay the most for the "luxury" of doing it. I guess you Brits just happen to like your weed like you lke your food, dull and expensive


On a side note, this would explain the large presence of odd-speaking englishmen that happened to be in Amsterdam ... and I thought it was the cheap flights...

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Originally posted by Yoepus Well I'm not suprised, everything is twice as expensive in the UK and taste like shit! Come on you know its true, you guys eat the blandest non-tasting food imaginable and pay the most for the "luxury" of doing it. I guess you Brits just happen to like your weed like you lke your food, dull and expensive On a side note, this would explain the large presence of odd-speaking englishmen that happened to be in Amsterdam ... and I thought it was the cheap flights...

FFS!!! There is no such mofo thing as an English accent hence the "odd-speaking Englishmen" How many times must I say that to people here?!!??!?

And as for our food, there is no finer cuisine than fish and chips (with chip shop curry sauce)! And you know it!

Altho I myself am an excellent cook (I can even cook some Jewish stuff!)

But your right about prices in the UK its one of the most expensive countries in the world (but then when you have the lowest income tax in Europe the government have to make their money from somewhere...)

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Originally posted by kush paintings What does that mean? Let alone, how that doesn't even further the discussion. The question is should marijuana be legal. How does raging potheads prove either side of the arguement.

The UK has 'semi-legalised' cannabis now. It used to be a classB drug but now it is classC which means if you get caught in possession you will only get a caution (ie it is not an arrestable or jailable offence to posses weed)

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Originally posted by Yoepus Actually that is not true. I was in Amsterdam about a month or so ago and I was very curious about the economics of it all. Was weed in Amsterdam cheaper? Was it better quality? Was it both? I mean we all know its legal there, but so what?

Maybe you encountered the 'tourist'-coffeeshops. Low-quality weed and high prices for tourists who can't separate weed from bushes.

The Netherlands, however, are a great example of how toleration/legalisation gives government a firmer grip on specific markets. Prostitution has become more regulated and more safe. And although weed is not legal, the tolerated supply through coffeeshops has given the government more control.

I guess the US will never tolerate/legalise production/consumption of softdrugs, especially with this neo-conservative government.
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