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mezzir
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Registered: Nov 2002
Location: assachusetts

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Originally posted by kr00t0n
Yarr matey, yee know thee score

Seriously, all natural and no side-effects, worth giving a go before stuff that does large alterations to your brain's chemical make-up

hehe i was suggesting my mom check it out too cause she's got the same problems as me and she asked where i heard about it
telling her its a commonly used suppliment to help alleviate the comedown from E didn't seem like the greatest idea


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torontotrance
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Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Toronto

they work and I speak from experience. It took me years to find the right drug that worked because so many have side effects that certain people cannot tolerate. My anxiety/depression is managable now, people think that anti depressants are the be all and cure all. Really they are not and I argue that teen who commit suicide because of it, really were going to end up doing it but they need mental help to deal with it. These drugs WILL NOT solve all your problems but for those with anxiety/depression will be able to cope with them and I read somewhere that 25% of adults have some type of either. So now I can get thru a day without worrying about things to the point where I lost sleep and became a total wreck.

Old Post May-10-2005 19:57  Canada
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Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Mississauga

Just curious but does anyone have clinical depression or one that can't be fixed because it's a chemical imbalance in the brain?

If so does that mean you're on medication for the rest of your life even if you're in therapy? I've been told that it isn't clinical depression that I have but I want to get that checked by a doctor because I don't really believe it.


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PaulCky411
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Registered: Apr 2004
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do you feel down all the time or something? because if so, that's not good at all and recommend getting on something, wether it be a pharmaceutical drug or something like weed? u never know, that stuff does make u happy... or happier

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torontotrance
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Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Toronto

Personally, I've been in both, therapy and on medication. I'm not getting into that but I've known people who were really close to suicide anyway go on anti depressants and then they ended up in the hospital because they nearly killed themselves and the blame was on the drugs. Drugs can only do so much for you, illegal drugs or legit ones, they all have their effects, side effects and problems. See I think that therapy helps you deal with things much better by airing your issues to a therapist and then the drugs help you cope much better with anxiety or anti depressants. I just urge people who are thinking of getting on them, don't be scared, you will be able to deal with it. I have no clue how long I'll be on them but right now they help me deal with my anxiety and that's what I need. I could outgrow it but I'm only thinking of the now.

Suicide is a mindset imo and it happens when someone cannot deal with their problems anymore and they want to deal with it. Suicide has always been a cry for help, if they kill themselves it is too late but if they survive, you are ok. I've known people who did end it and people who failed to end it. Both are harsh and tough to deal with, even if you knew them because you feel responsible for their actions because you want to help. As I said earlier, drugs only can go so far, the rest is all in the mind.

Old Post May-10-2005 20:10  Canada
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I put myself in therapy because I didn't want to have to rely on something to give me artificial happyness. Therapy has helped quite a bit and my outlook on life has definately improved and my problems have names and definitions which makes me feel better about myself.

I just can't seam to stay happy. I have constant moodswings, paranoia, breakdowns, etc. and no matter how hard I try I just can't be happy. I have friends and family who I care about and who care about me, I have health, a good head on my shoulders, etc. but it just doesn't happen for me.

My hope is that the antidepressants will just kick it all down a notch. I don't want to be heavily medicated, just something to take ease off my shoulders. Especialy since I'm going to be finding a job soon, starting college a few months later and whatnot and I know the pressure will make me snap otherwise.


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torontotrance
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Registered: Apr 2001
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nah they will put you on a mood stabilizer not anti depressants or maybe both. See if you have real high highs and real low lows, they might do it. Talk to a doctor, the drugs might help solve some issues.

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squirrelly
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For a lot of people, those pills have the opposite effect and make them MORE suicidal. It's tragic.


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Hopefuly my doctor knows his head from his asshole and doesn't just throw me on something based on talking to me for 5 minutes.

I talked to my therapist and asked what he recommended but he seamed very avoidant with telling me what I need. I have an appointment in a few days though to see a doctor about it so I'll ask about both antidepressants and the mood stabilizer.


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pia
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i've been on wellbutrin since nov. (started out 100mg/day, now 200mg/day) and i must say it's really helping...

i don't feel happy or sad, just somewhat normal (which is really crazy because i don't remember a time when i was like this)....

i used to have alternating periods of extreme highs and lows: the lows always lasted for much longer, and at those times i was suicidal, and the highs...man, i have to say i kind of miss the highs...hahhaha....i've tried some drugs (coke and E) and i have to say my 'natural' highs were like 300 times better...i can't even describe it...in any case, they always lasted for a short time and were followed by absolute SHIT so.....i'm happy i'm back to normal...

my meds are accompanied by sessions with a psychologist which really help. usually the sessions are exhausting and emotionally draining, but after a few hours i feel a lot better, so i highly recommend this kind of therapy (over the meds, meds only if they're absolutely necessary)....

side effects: my sex drive has really diminished ..hahahahh...seriously, it's almost non existant....which is funny because when i'm not taking my medications i think it's overly....active?
crazy stuff

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Originally posted by pia
i've been on wellbutrin since nov. (started out 100mg/day, now 200mg/day) and i must say it's really helping...

i don't feel happy or sad, just somewhat normal (which is really crazy because i don't remember a time when i was like this)....

i used to have alternating periods of extreme highs and lows: the lows always lasted for much longer, and at those times i was suicidal, and the highs...man, i have to say i kind of miss the highs...hahhaha....i've tried some drugs (coke and E) and i have to say my 'natural' highs were like 300 times better...i can't even describe it...in any case, they always lasted for a short time and were followed by absolute SHIT so.....i'm happy i'm back to normal...

my meds are accompanied by sessions with a psychologist which really help. usually the sessions are exhausting and emotionally draining, but after a few hours i feel a lot better, so i highly recommend this kind of therapy (over the meds, meds only if they're absolutely necessary)....

side effects: my sex drive has really diminished ..hahahahh...seriously, it's almost non existant....which is funny because when i'm not taking my medications i think it's overly....active?
crazy stuff


My highs are awesome too. Just sitting in the car and feeling the breeze makes me at peace. Some trance tunes make me melt too and it's such an awesome feeling.


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requiemofnanqel
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Registered: Jan 2005
Location: Miami

Everyone has a different system, no one medication will work the same way on someone as it does on someone else. So it usually tends to be on a case to case basis. Some meds will cause side effects for some people, some will cause dependancy and so on. I mean coming from someone who's done their share
Zoloft was way too strong for me. I mean I the feeling of well being was literally instantanously, only bad thing was the side effects were felt immediately. To the point where I myself took the initiative to get off of them the first week, b/c the nauseating feeling, along with the dizzyness, wasn't what I call a better well being oh yea and the case of the shits it gives you def. not cool, [sorry for being so graphic]especially when it tends to refrain you from hunger.
Paxil works in a more gradual form. Meaning you don't feel the side effects right there and then. Could take anywhere from 3 weeks to 3months at a point. I was on it for about 3 months, not bad, no side effects, so atleast for me this is a personal +++
Paxil CR. is pretty much the samething as regular paxil, with the same side effects, except it tends to be prescribed for those who suffer from anxiety attacks and then some. Between both paxils I will say that I never had an issue coming off of them or side effects as well.
Now I'm on something called lexapro, which tends to be lower in mg. and lighter then most anti-depressants. The effects tend to work gradual, I've had no major side effects while being on this, with the exception of a little bit of insomnia, but that could be caused by something else..Lol..so I'm not going to blame it entirely on the med. Going on 7months now so that's def. a good thing. And when coming off of them I can do it at anytime without going into a state of a panic attack, or major mood swing dilema for not taking them. I usually tend to take it for one month straight or half a month and lay off of it completely (It is highly advised never to do this.)until I start feeling gloomy!Which takes a while.

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