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Originally posted by est and cynicism isn't fashionable.

Are you fucking kidding me? It is about the most fashionable thing among idiots in their late teens to early thirties to do. I can't think of many things that are more fashionable to do.

Its nice to see you guys poke jabs at ikea, coke, and mcdonalds, like you're such rebels. We all know corporations do anything to make a dollar, whats the surprise? And whats wrong with that? Thats what nearly everybody in this world is trying to do.

You can't even begin to put down corporations, because you live off of them. You would be nowhere without them. No matter how much you want to say you don't eat at mcdonalds, and you don't shop at the gap or whatever bullshit you wish to speak, you live off of major corporations, nearly everything you eat, and own in your house is linked to corporations that you would probably call "corrupt." And you know what? If they went away you would all be crying. Its rare that anybody creates a thread about how great the corporations are. How much money they are spending on developing new technology. How much money certain car manufacturers spend developing safer vehicles. You all just think it makes you look cool to talk shit about corporations because they are bigger than you. You're like school children throwing shit at the teachers to look cool.

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Originally posted by beats and beeps

yes, this is true. The reason you can die from drinking too much water is because of the electrolyte-water ratio. When you drink too much water it becomes soo diluted, and you die. That's why Gatorade and such add salts and such.

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Originally posted by wwu.punisher - Dasani bottled water, which is owned by Coca Cola, contains a significant amount of sodium. Sodium is salt. Salt makes you thirsty. Think about that one for a minute.

Please dont tell me you are serious. 'Sodium', a salt? Thats not the case. Any molecule that lacks kovalent(i have no idea if that is a english word) charachteristics and bods with ion-bondings, is considered a salt, right? The typical salt we know is NaCl, Sodium Chloride that is. Why NaCl tends to make you thirsty is that it strongly affects the osmolar pressure in a body. Basically water flowing away from the cells(because of concentrational differences etc. blabla) makes you thirsty. While NaCl disturbs the water balance, it is not the case with every salt. And Sodium in itself NOT a salt. Neither does have the ability directly affect the osmolar balance in the body. I think the water contains rather some salt of Sodium than pure Sodium.

Do correct me if im wrong!

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Originally posted by Chris d(-_-)b kovalent

In English it's Covalent.

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Originally posted by beats and beeps Are you fucking kidding me? It is about the most fashionable thing among idiots in their late teens to early thirties to do. I can't think of many things that are more fashionable to do.

It's your exact type of response that I'm referring to - cynics are seen as making a fuss for the sake of it.

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Its nice to see you guys poke jabs at ikea, coke, and mcdonalds, like you're such rebels. We all know corporations do anything to make a dollar, whats the surprise? And whats wrong with that? Thats what nearly everybody in this world is trying to do.

OK OK! I admit I have a rebellious streak. I live off a scholarship, which is (just) enough for me to have everything I need, so at the moment I'm quite happy. Money matters more to some people than others. But it's those that get so obsessed with it that it takes over their lives that I'm poking fun at.

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You can't even begin to put down corporations, because you live off of them. You would be nowhere without them. No matter how much you want to say you don't eat at mcdonalds, and you don't shop at the gap or whatever bullshit you wish to speak, you live off of major corporations, nearly everything you eat, and own in your house is linked to corporations that you would probably call "corrupt." And you know what? If they went away you would all be crying.

I'll believe that when I see it!

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Its rare that anybody creates a thread about how great the corporations are. How much money they are spending on developing new technology. How much money certain car manufacturers spend developing safer vehicles. You all just think it makes you look cool to talk shit about corporations because they are bigger than you. You're like school children throwing shit at the teachers to look cool.

Well yeah I guess it is human nature to want to hate people that have acheived more than we have. It's just nice of companies like McDonald's to give us a pretty good excuse to do so!

I take your point though, and I agree with you in principle. I realise that society would be entirely different if it weren't for these kind of companies. But that's not the point. The point is that when we discover these hidden truths, we just wonder what else is going on that we don't know about...

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Originally posted by est OK OK! I admit I have a rebellious streak. I live off a scholarship, which is (just) enough for me to have everything I need, so at the moment I'm quite happy. Money matters more to some people than others. But it's those that get so obsessed with it that it takes over their lives that I'm poking fun at.

Out of curiousity, who supplies the scholarship?

I suggest reading Jihad vs. Mcworld. It was written in pre 9/11, but it shows how both Jihad and Mcworld (Mcworld represents all of the nations that are involved in the global market). It shows how Mcworld threatens democracy because when a community is in Mcworld, they have no freedom. Think about it, are you actually free in this so called free world, or are we slaves to the market.

If you're all interested in finding out more about corporate mentality, and its impacts on society, go rent a documentary called 'The Corporation' (creative, huh). Not really anything too deep in it, but it explores corporate mythos and its impact on our lives.

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Originally posted by beats and beeps Out of curiousity, who supplies the scholarship?

I get my studies and maintenence in return for teaching undergrad statistics tutorials (I'm a stats geek btw ).

One of my colleagues however has a scholarship from a major national drinks company, researching appetite. After she finishes her studies, the company will own the results and will have the right to suppress whatever parts of the results that choose. Let's just say I didn't bother applying for that one.

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Originally posted by beats and beeps Are you fucking kidding me? It is about the most fashionable thing among idiots in their late teens to early thirties to do. I can't think of many things that are more fashionable to do. Its nice to see you guys poke jabs at ikea, coke, and mcdonalds, like you're such rebels. We all know corporations do anything to make a dollar, whats the surprise? And whats wrong with that? Thats what nearly everybody in this world is trying to do. You can't even begin to put down corporations, because you live off of them. You would be nowhere without them. No matter how much you want to say you don't eat at mcdonalds, and you don't shop at the gap or whatever bullshit you wish to speak, you live off of major corporations, nearly everything you eat, and own in your house is linked to corporations that you would probably call "corrupt." And you know what? If they went away you would all be crying. Its rare that anybody creates a thread about how great the corporations are. How much money they are spending on developing new technology. How much money certain car manufacturers spend developing safer vehicles. You all just think it makes you look cool to talk shit about corporations because they are bigger than you. You're like school children throwing shit at the teachers to look cool.

I couldn't disagree more. We absolutely do NOT need the corporations...The only reason we live off of them is because they and our governments leave us no choice. They show us thousands of ads per day, making us think that the only way to be a prosperous individual is to consume products! Everything you listed isn't what makes corporations good...it's what makes them bad. They provide us with everything we eat? About 90% of the food today is genetically modified by these corporations in order to make it look better, taste better, sell better...Yet we don't even know what's in it, because they don't give us time to question their actions with all the ads and stupidity they throw at us through the news. It doesn't bother people that a single corporation can make your food, supply your drinks, build your house, fund your government AND dictate what you see pretty much every step of your day through the media? Sure, corporations make safer cars and shit like that...But they don't give a fuck about the people when it comes down to it, the only reason they'd make a safer car is to turn it into a marketing campaign, making more people buy it and increasing their profits. All they care about is profits, nothing else. You may say people are all like that, that if you were in the same position as some CEO you'd be doing the same thing...But that doesn't make it ok. That's whats wrong with the world today. The media has put such an emphasis on money, and buying and consuming products that we don't have time to think about anything else.

I hate coke anyway. Tastes like shit.

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