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Originally posted by flavdave I challenge you to a duel.

yes, a trainwrecking duel, we both get 3 decks and in 3 minutes both have to trainwreck thru the most vinyl and the main goal is 33 vinyls

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"I believe that's referred to as intelligent drum & bass, which obviously means there's a genre of stupid drum & bass out there" (John Peel)

Well if people don't want to listen to some great music, it's their loss. You can't convince the closed minded to open their minds.

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Originally posted by flavdave I challenge you to a duel.

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Originally posted by rtgbanks Moreover, the depth of variety within trance necessitates a knowledge of this before any such categorical pejorative statements could be justified.

*Cough*

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I think you're full of shit.

Firstly, your use of big words makes you sound like an asshole; and I did read the whole thing. Secondly, you make the assumption that the people who hate trance have no idea what they are talking about. This is incorrect. I found my introduction to electronic music through trance, and was pretty into it for a while. I have since come to rescind that opinion and changed my view to the idea that trance has been complete shit since roughly when Children came out. Thusly, I have listened to trance, extensively, and still think that it is shit.

Also, your mention of trance lacking a cult-of-personality syndrome is completely shit. Tiesto, Armin, Ferry, PvD; these people might as well be worshipped, people follow them blindly. I do not think that you can deny this point, for if you do, I will fucking bury you with forum search results.

Finally, you make claim that trance is strongly emotional. I disagree here also. Trance is electronic music: it is made by machines. It has no more inherent emotion than minimal techno, drum and bass, or happy hardcore.

So, next time you try to sound intelligent, I suggest you make claims with some basis, and I suggest that you don't contradict yourself in your "defence," as several prior posters have pointed out. Music is music, and therefore is highly subjective. Don't try to make yourself superior through what you listen to.

Rewrite the entire thing without the elitist attitude.

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Originally posted by TwoPlow Finally, you make claim that trance is strongly emotional. I disagree here also. Trance is electronic music: it is made by machines. It has no more inherent emotion than minimal techno, drum and bass, or happy hardcore.

No.

Emotions are perhaps the most subjective of the myriad of ways used to describe a human. It's about relativism - what is good to one, is bad to another.

Although it is electronic music, simply because it's made by machines does not strip it of emotion. Certainly, it is incapable of FEELING emotion, but it is perfectly capable of CONVEYING emotion. In epic trance, the music is generally written with chord progressions that are known to create happy feelings. Just as two notes played simultaneously can sound and feel both jarring and pleasing (a half-step interval vs. a perfect fourth or a perfect fifth), music can create feelings of unease, joy, sorrow, peacefulness, etc... The instrumentation used is irrelevant when compared to the notes and their interaction with one another - the instrument of choice is merely incidental.

While minimalist techno may not have blatantly emotional melodies (or have melodies at all, for that matter, making them simply sound as opposed to music according to Western music), it can be associated with an emotional event. Just as certain smells remind people of places and events, and bring back the feelings associated with it, music can also be associated with a certain place and time.

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Originally posted by trancEyes22 it's spelled defense

The correct Brittish spelling is 'Defence'. However as you are American, you are not incorrect in saying that it should have an 's' to replace the 'c' in your cultural schema.

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With regards to the original poster. I do believe we have seen into the mind of the worlds first fundamentalist TA.

Cheers
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Originally posted by trancEyes22 it's spelled defense

You fucking idiot.

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Originally posted by Tranc3 Rewrite the entire thing without the elitist attitude.

banks....

elitist means someone who thinks that they are better than everyone else because of what they percieve as their greater knowledge or understanding of something....


I can't be stuffed reading all that stuff you typed up, so I think i'll support or abuse you later...

We really need something in TA which tells us how long the starter of the thread has been around on TA...

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Originally posted by montana yes, a trainwrecking duel, we both get 3 decks and in 3 minutes both have to trainwreck thru the most vinyl and the main goal is 33 vinyls

Ha Ha... that was funny....

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Originally posted by Abhay banks.... elitist means someone who thinks that they are better than everyone else because of what they percieve as their greater knowledge or understanding of something.... I can't be stuffed reading all that stuff you typed up, so I think i'll support or abuse you later... We really need something in TA which tells us how long the starter of the thread has been around on TA...

Isn't that where the "registered" bit under your avatar is for?

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