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| quote: | Originally posted by trancaholic
I agree with you totally on regular street-level muslims, but still believe that there's a reason for the Queen consistently talking about "Islam" rather than "muslims". I have several muslim friends myself, and they're all secular. However, the "official" heads of their religion in Denmark are fundamentalist nutters. The same cannot be said about the top figures of the main religion (Protestantism), which have accepted that Christianity (while having provided a basic fundament of humanity) has no influence on todays politics. Similarly the heads of Catholicism, Judaeism, and other relatively large religions, do not interfere in the debate about the political aspects of the Danish society today. They have so far yet to denounce psycho behaviour of their fellow believers, but then again there has not been any major religiously motivated law-breaking in Denmark by these believers. In fact, the only religions I can think of, which has had followers doing bad things, are Satanism, Jehova's witnesses, and Islam. And of these three, only Islam is supposedly a modern, open, and peaceful religion. |
Again, i see what you mean. I think the main reason for this is that the immans would come to societies where religion still have influence on politics (which it doesnt in scandiavia). So its a big change for them to stfu about politics. Kinda like if a whole bunch of fundies moved from the states to denmark, then christianity would be a threat to the danish society, no? It's not the religion's fault per se (not more than any other religion anyway), but rather how some ppl interpret it. Im pretty sure you agree with this, but my point is that its stupid to blame islam as a threat to our society, when its really only some fundies that are the threat. So (okay fuck me for being so politically correct, but sometimes it actually makes a different) instead of stating islam as the problem, it would be better to say religious fundies. Cause really, i know ppl who hear this too often, and soon they think that every muslim is like this, and that they have to be affraid of muslims comming into societ a la 'the muslim invasion'. That is also a threat to the society imo, we live in a global world, that should not only count for trade, but also for ppl.
| quote: | | I would agree, if anyone would uncritically take the Queen's statements as basis of their own belief system. However, the only Danes who really worship the royal family, are the elderly, and they are generally the most racist people in Denmark anyway. So I think the damage is limited. However, part of the agreement between the royal family and Denmark, is that it's members are not allowed to publicly comment on political issues, so she should have kept her mouth shut. |
yes, again, i agree (lol in fact i think we agree on pretty much everything here  ), but it's still a bad thing to say of the queen, who as you said should be politically neutral. She might refer to islam instead of muslims, but the difference is fine, and it doesnt really make a difference since muslims supposedly follows islam. So due to this stupid statement i lost a lot of respect of the danish queen. Which is what we are argue if that was right or wrong of me?
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