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malek
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Montréal

quote:
Originally posted by ShadoWolf
forgive my ignorance, but how would OSX run on CISC-based processors?



its like how linux can run on the x86, PowerPC (RISC), SUN (RISC), etc etc...

OSX is based on BSD, which in turn runs on many platforms.


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malek
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Montréal

damn another example of how cheap and simple technologies always win over more complex and expensive ones even if they're theorically better.


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Surreal JRS
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Registered: Jan 2005
Location: Kicking it in Toronto, Canada

quote:
Originally posted by ShadoWolf
forgive my ignorance, but how would OSX run on CISC-based processors?


Easy, just change the gcc compilers -march flag


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VERTiG0
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Registered: Dec 2003
Location: no longer Cambridge, Ontario, Canada

quote:
Originally posted by malek
OSX is based on BSD, which in turn runs on many platforms.


I thought OSX was just NeXT or whatever it's called, which is an x86 OS?

On another note, one of you now has to make OSX work on my PC. Hop to it.

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Surreal JRS
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Registered: Jan 2005
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quote:
Originally posted by VERTiG0
I thought OSX was just NeXT or whatever it's called, which is an x86 OS?


The OSX kernel, Darwin is based on UC Berkeley's 4.4BSD-Lite2.


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starsearcher
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Registered: Jan 2003
Location: Toronto

Sweet...thanks Malek this is pretty exciting stuff actually!!!

I can't wait to see what they'll do with the new notebooks I sure have been wanting to get my hands on one for A WHILE!...Primary reason I didn't was due to school and academic reasons - I need PC for things such as development...but now that all will be possible there's no reason for me to stay in this world And I should use Apples educational discount before I graduate...so they better hurry up!


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zokissima
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Registered: Dec 2004
Location: Toronto

A little OT, but what kind of development did you do, Jon?

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Registered: Jan 2003
Location: Toronto

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A little OT, but what kind of development did you do, Jon?


We needed Visual Studio .NET and some other things that I don't think run on Macs...bunch of Microsoft stuff...SQL server....java probabbly does but that was a whil back anyway...


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Funkyfun
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Registered: May 2004
Location: Toronto

quote:
Originally posted by VERTiG0
No, they just need to make everything cheaper.


I meant in terms of Hardware support and software compatability.. But things should improve now since they have decided to go with Intel...

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TrickDaddE
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Registered: Dec 2003
Location: Toronto, Canada

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Screw Macs... I just ordered an Alienware Area-51 ALX SLI It's time to get jiggy with dual nVidia 6800 Ultra 256s and 2gb of DDR2 Ram, with a 148 GB 10,000 RPM harddrive... and silent liquid cooling w/SLI solution motherboard and a 3.6 ghz Intel processor. I can't wait... The video games will be even harder to look away from and to boot an Audigy Platinum 4 sound card. I could start producing tracks

It's so... beautiful


Your sick dude!!! LOL


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Registered: Jan 2003
Location: Toronto

Some more quotes and interesting facts:

quote:
The move will be made possible by work that's been ongoing at Apple for some time. Apple's
Mac OS X has been leading a secret double life, having been compiled for both for Intel and the PowerPC, Apple's current processor of choice, Jobs said in the keynote. The company will support the PowerPC—right now it uses IBM's PowerPC 970FX chip—for some time to come.


quote:
Jobs' explanation for the move? Apple, which has been maintaining a feature—complete version of OS X for Intel chips—a project code-named Marklar—in secret for some time, could not build the machines it wanted with IBM PowerPC chips inside, given their power consumption. Intel won out, he said, on watts.

"We have a good relationship with IBM. They've got a product roadmap. Today the products are really good. But as we look out into the future ... we can envision some awesome products we want to build. Intel's processor roadmap aligns with our vision more than others," Jobs said in an interview broadcast on CNBC shortly after his keynote ended.


Source: http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=sto...30&sid=96479361


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i don't mind apple products, i use/d them a lot, they have their bad quality just as much as any other product. I recently visited the apple store in yorkdale to report my problem with the powerbook lcd I had.. let me tell you, these apple people sure hire the dumbest people of all to work in their little genius bar.

First of all, the guy mentions how white spots on the lcd are "normal" and occur frequently. I did mention that no, it doesn't and apple does claim full responsibility for this defect... Then he says how "A mark on the back of the screen caused the lcd to turn white spots..." it was a blue crayon lying around on my work table, I didn't know I had to full clense my laptop before bringing it in for repair, anyway, i smudged it off for him and admired how stupid he really is..

Then he calls his partner, and of course, his dumb ass genius bar partner couldn't agree more with his theories, and the argument turned to me waiting 2 weeks for a new screen. I said it would be fine... and all the sudden, they couldn't do it.
At that point I was pretty pissed, I coulda snapped easily but I just told them to not please waste my time and I left (with my defective lcd powerbook).

A bunch of the things I had mentioned to them were:
-My friend got his repaired at a non-official apple dealer, no questions asked. They at least knew about the problem than an Apple store.

-I phoned apple myself, and they agreed to repair it as they sent me a box to ship it out, I just thought it would be easier to come to the store so I wouldn't have to depart with my machine for 2-3 weeks.

and I forgot to throw this in their face, but Im afraid i would turn really mad next time I go, which would be never to put up with those asses -
http://www.apple.com/support/powerbook/displayprogram/





sorry for the rant guys, i know it's not apple as much as a few retards working on client service, I just wish they'd argue less and do their job. I just want my screen fixed. Now ill have to go downtown to do so.


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