haha, thought this was going to become a battle thread for a second.

i totally agree with you on this on sly. that might be because i come from an atheist family, but yeh, i don't think that others should really be using things like family ties and guilt to push religious beliefs on others. as long as the parents aren't restricting the kid's access to christian beliefs or whatever, wtf, let them choose to be parents as they see fit. if there really is a god, let him decide. if not, then nobody really has to worry. then again, what if the hindus or buddhists have it right? (i'll steer away from a theological debate.)

and hey, tell her at least they're not converted wiccans or something...

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Originally posted by butterfly people try to push god on me more than i would like and i dont know if there is anything that offends me more.

+1. i'm all for religion and i think its a great thing, but i'm not religious at all and therefore cannot stand when someone pushes their beliefs on me. thats the ONLY thing that really gets to me and actually turns me off to religion more than anything else.

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Originally posted by *InVeRs3* Religions don't start wars. Stupid people and propoganda do.

Religious beliefs do. Half the wars in world history probably had religious motives

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Originally posted by Slylee my f'n mother..i swear. ok she just found out that my uncle's wife is an athiest and she's freaking out because my little cousin (he's like 3) isn't going to have "God" in his life and she just went on and on about how it's "WRONG" and "he needs to be brought up with some sort of belief system BLA BLA BLA BLA" which, i'm not saying i disagree with, but it's NOT HER KID, it's her nephew, and it's my UNCLE'S job to try to work something out with HIS WIFE and HIS SON... i mean am i right or am i right? god, she fucking thinks everyone in the world has to see things her way or they're wrong.

you should be like...

"well mom, you fucked up on me...so who are you to tell anyone how to raise their kid"

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Originally posted by *InVeRs3* Of course, not all Christians are blind or close minded. And what's so stupid about religion? Is it bad to promote peace? And no. Religions don't start wars. Stupid people and propoganda do.

religion does not equal peace. some religions are designed to promote peace but most have been warped so that they represent different things. i dont have a problem with good people but the idea that you have to believe in a higher power in order to be able to be a good person is rediculous, IMO.

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Originally posted by Floorfiller you should be like... "well mom, you fucked up on me...so who are you to tell anyone how to raise their kid"

Very self-deprecating of you slylee

Yes...Religions do promote peace...fuckin hell...

Homosexuals should burn in hell = peace
Priests molesting kids = peace
Africans don't get condoms because abstinence is better = peace
If you dont accept Jesus Christ as your saviour you will burn in hell = peace
Follow the Koran or you are an infidel = peace
Israel belongs to the jews because it is their "holy land" = peace



give me a fucking break...

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Originally posted by ******** Seplling don't demonstrate intelligence and educatoin - knowing does.

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Originally posted by Slylee my f'n mother..i swear. ok she just found out that my uncle's wife is an athiest and she's freaking out because my little cousin (he's like 3) isn't going to have "God" in his life and she just went on and on about how it's "WRONG" and "he needs to be brought up with some sort of belief system BLA BLA BLA BLA" which, i'm not saying i disagree with, but it's NOT HER KID, it's her nephew, and it's my UNCLE'S job to try to work something out with HIS WIFE and HIS SON... i mean am i right or am i right? god, she fucking thinks everyone in the world has to see things her way or they're wrong.

She should stay out of other peoples lives and let them raise their child the best way they feel fit. Personally, I believe that people who need to have "God" as a major part of their life and rely on religion to tell them what to do are weak minded individuals and should be banished from this planet.

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Originally posted by *InVeRs3* Of course, not all Christians are blind or close minded. And what's so stupid about religion? Is it bad to promote peace? And no. Religions don't start wars. Stupid people and propoganda do.

hmm. so many ways i could affably disagree with you. i do agree that stupid people and propaganda can create war, but smart people in powerful places combined with mass belief and devoted following (or just plain fear) can also create wars. big ones.

in too many cases the principles and morals embraced fundamentally in almost all mass religions have been completely warped or eclipsed by misinterpretation (intentional or otherwise), and with mass followings come the potential for mass destruction.

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Originally posted by butterfly religion does not equal peace. some religions are designed to promote peace but most have been warped so that they represent different things. i dont have a problem with good people but the idea that you have to believe in a higher power in order to be able to be a good person is rediculous, IMO.

Thaaaank you.

The problem with religion is you are categorizing yourself and others...once that happens there is bound to be conflict...

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Originally posted by ******** Seplling don't demonstrate intelligence and educatoin - knowing does.

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Originally posted by *InVeRs3* Of course, not all Christians are blind or close minded. And what's so stupid about religion? Is it bad to promote peace? And no. Religions don't start wars. Stupid people and propoganda do.

religion doesn't promote peAce lmao

what about satanism? *which isn't about hurting people* but still, that is a religion.


and sayin stupid people and propoganda starts wars.....meh.
a lot of wars are based on religion.

im not going to get into this.

it's all a matter of perspective.

i just think religion separates moreso than brings people together.

i hate religion, i think it's dumb, and i want no part of it.

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Originally posted by *InVeRs3* And no. Religions don't start wars.

This is a bit of a silly thing to say. When it really boils down to it, a lot (not all) of wars that began, started because of religion or a religious issue.