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Psy-T
Melody Klein



Registered: Jan 2003
Location: Haifa

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Anyone who says they wouldn't use the opportunity is just plain lying.


i wouldn't.

being guided by the label a bit as to things like a punchier kick, or just little changes to the energy of the track is alright, but being asked to change your style completely? no thanks.

i would take it as a bit of a compliment though, and i would shop my original remix around to bootleggers after the original is released.

the fact that the label is asking YOU to do a diffrent remix tells you that you're production values are high enough to be released, otherwise they would just chuck it in the bin and wait for someone else's remix.


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Melody Klein



Registered: Jan 2003
Location: Haifa

quote:
Originally posted by Freak
Not outside of the house scene he wasnt.... that took him chartside and into the big league.


what does armand have to do with this anyways?

he wasnt asked to do a cheesier remix, he was asked to do a remix, in which he chopped the shit out of the original (to very good effect) and changed the style.

totally diffrent scenario


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Icone
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Leuven, Belgium

There's alot of well-known producers having a different guise for their more commercial side of trance/dance. So I'd go with that idea myself

Being able to produce "cheese" doesn't mean you can't produce anything more serious (and vice versa), there's enough examples of this. Besides, "good cheese" isn't always that easy to produce either - not all "cheese" works well on the radio.


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TOR
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Registered: Aug 2001
Location: Bruges, Belgium

quote:
Originally posted by Storyteller
b) I'll take it and release it under a new nickname, so nobody will think of this when I release 'serious music' someday.


that's what i'd do

but i just wonder why the label would ask to make a Jan Wayne style track.. usually when a label approaches an artist, it's because they are familiar with his style, right? if they ask L-vee for example, it's because they know what expect. or is this view too idealistic?


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Icone
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quote:
Originally posted by TOR
that's what i'd do

but i just wonder why the label would ask to make a Jan Wayne style track.. usually when a label approaches an artist, it's because they are familiar with his style, right? if they ask L-vee for example, it's because they know what expect. or is this view too idealistic?


No, I think this is certainly true. A label wouldn't approach you as a trance artist to make an r&b remix either. If a label comes to you, it's most of the time because they heard your track somewhere and would like your approach on one of their releases.

I think this described scenario in the main topic isn't that realistic. A label sure can ask you to do some edits to their likings (they're all people, with their own style and impressions after all) - though they will also let you free to use your own methods.


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Registered: Jul 2001
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depends on the cash


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DigiNut
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Registered: Dec 2002
Location: Toronto, Self-proclaimed Centre of the Universe

I'd say take those cheesy vocals and bake them in a souflée of cheddar, swiss, havarti and Monterey Jack; slather with icing sugar, hot fudge and maple syrup; fry it with 7 sticks of butter; soak it in fruit punch for 12 hours, and definitely, definitely, don't forget the candy cherry on top.

Then make up an equally cheesy pseudonym like "Frank the Phat Funky Freestyler", attach it to the track, send it on down, and use the massive infusion of beautiful cold hard cash to buy a truckload of synthesizers, mixers, high-end DAWs, DSPs, and the entire Vienna symphonic library, and a new house to put it all in, so you can start producing serious music under a serious name and do a mighty kick-ass job of it because your equipment is better than what most Hollywood studios have.

Really, what kind of goofball says "no" to a fistful of clean, honestly-earned cash?


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Registered: Jan 2004
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Lol, funny reply DigiNut Nice read..


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JakeC
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Registered: Mar 2005
Location: Birmingham

The way to see it.....

Do you want to make a living from producing?

If yes treat your music like a buisness. If no stick with the day job and continue with producing as a minor hobby.


Music is a buisness and there is no such thing as selling out if you want to break even after speding all that money on gear.

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lucas ss
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Registered: Jul 2004
Location: Kashiwa, Japan

quote:
Originally posted by thoughtlessjex
"Who's Jan Wayne?"


you know, the guy in all the old western films that shoots people and gets into fights....

i hate the cheesy cowboy vocals in pop trance these days...

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Signal2005
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Registered: May 2005
Location: methuen
lol

Releasing it would be the stupidist thing u can do.Just think lets say u did it.

People would then expect this cheese from you all the time.The all the people that enjoyed it would want more tunes from you like that and when u actually release a tune u enjoy u would be shuned to hell by all the people who bought ur cd and expected the cheddar.

the label would dump you the contacts are gone becuase they all wanted more cheddar and u couldnt provide it becuase it just isnt you.Or you could go down that road get a hit and become a one hit wonder only to be remembered is the loser and king of cheese on vh1's where are they now.

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