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DigiNut
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Registered: Dec 2002
Location: Toronto, Self-proclaimed Centre of the Universe

Can I clarify two things here:

1. Eq after compression or before?

2. When you say "notch", are you actually referring to cutting away that very tiny band around 800 Hz? Or should I be thinking more along the lines of boosting a range of frequencies in that area (bandpass), and if so, what would you say is a good starting point for the gain and Q factor?

Looks like some kick ass advice here, thanks!


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ijozef
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Registered: Aug 2003
Location: Lebanon

Very useful Dave,now can you recomand a good samples CD,library...
the VEC is a little hard for me

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Dave West
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Registered: Jun 2005
Location: London

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Originally posted by DigiNut
Can I clarify two things here:

1. Eq after compression or before?

2. When you say "notch", are you actually referring to cutting away that very tiny band around 800 Hz? Or should I be thinking more along the lines of boosting a range of frequencies in that area (bandpass), and if so, what would you say is a good starting point for the gain and Q factor?

Looks like some kick ass advice here, thanks!


1 - EQ always before, if after, the limiting gets screwed

2 - Yes, at 800 or wherever that sample needs it. Most need a cut of between 9 and 18db on a q of 1. Just move the eq band from around 300-800 and it should just pop out. I typically cut the whole 18db at either 400 or 800, again depending on the sample.

I never boost kick drum frequencies - anywhere. Remember a cut a 800 will provide a boost at 1k.

As for samples. For the non-kick stuff I use raw 909 samples from the Drum Fundamentals CD.

For kicks, I quite like all of the Uberschall stuff. I don't like anything too effected. Also stay away from anything that has already been through the processing mill.

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DigiNut
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Registered: Dec 2002
Location: Toronto, Self-proclaimed Centre of the Universe

Much obliged Dave.

I tried it on the track I've been working on - doesn't seem to be packing significantly more heat than what I was doing before (compressor + leveller on the kick + multiband compressor with heavy bass compression on the master track), but I have a lot of kicks of unknown origin so who knows what's already been done to it...

Nonetheless, thanks again, this page is going on my bookmarks.


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Good, now the problem would be to get those mono kicks, or would work if I use a stereo kick, use the stereo enhancer and set it at -100 and render? I don't know.... maybe?


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Chronosis
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Good, now the problem would be to get those mono kicks, or would work if I use a stereo kick, use the stereo enhancer and set it at -100 and render? I don't know.... maybe?


Do you have a sound editor?

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Yes, Wavelab.


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Yes, Wavelab.


Well there must be a channel converter. Try to search for it.

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I see, thank you for the info mate.


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DigiNut
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Good, now the problem would be to get those mono kicks, or would work if I use a stereo kick, use the stereo enhancer and set it at -100 and render? I don't know.... maybe?

If you're using Cubase, the easiest way I can think of would be just to route it to a mono group channel and put the compressors/effects on the group. Same concept in FL I believe.

That's if you've got a big library of stereo kicks and you don't want to go through the trouble of converting them all to mono.

Edit: I missed where you said you have wavelab, even if you've got a whole shitload of kicks, you can just use Wavelab to batch process them down to mono.


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tested in FL Studio 5, works like a charm... very nice post mate!


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